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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 09:37:18 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <9nt03kden03fhfuffmugpur936kgo8n75s@4ax.com> References: <s8fp2kphnrt2dkh54n522cvqi3ur2bp2l1@4ax.com> <100iphn$2doci$1@dont-email.me> <jkqp2kp0aqu5g75lejpj6tkmqqa1hqnb9h@4ax.com> <100jjld$2lstu$1@dont-email.me> <v16r2kd6aibnmt7iisrea2niusm34uvmd0@4ax.com> <100l2pj$2u9tq$2@dont-email.me> <1p8s2k5g75p5r8u3i4lnml9lmjai706979@4ax.com> <100lmds$32g7r$3@dont-email.me> <rmps2kl0aaf0u49gg3kl0uhth7uc4j6aq1@4ax.com> <100pc99$3onha$1@dont-email.me> <88k03k9shd17d3k5c0l0rqaoiaionmuech@4ax.com> <100prak$36mr$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 15:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7d55dff38fb2d478e2c030bc88e8e685"; logging-data="124292"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4T6tZuav0Tz/vrBauArQnz8FoPTbNHKs=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:zXDmqfKol1y7sHuHMeuYbjXTcYQ= Bytes: 3095 On Fri, 23 May 2025 07:56:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 5/23/2025 5:45 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:40:08 +0200, Rolf Mantel >> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote: >> >>> Am 22.05.2025 um 02:16 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 19:08:44 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/21/2025 3:12 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:33:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (How _does_ a person become a mature adult without having learned >>>>>>> anything about Stoicism? That's just astonishing.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually I know it well, in fact I pretty much live it, but I never >>>>>> heard the term Stoicism. >>>>> >>>>> Wow. >>>> >>>> Where would someone with a real life come across the term stoicism? >>>> Maybe in some group think session in a classroom. How would knowing >>>> that term be of value to that someone? >>> >>> In some countries, cultural education like this is part of the high >>> school curriculum. >> >> Indeed, that would be a group thinking session about group thinking. >> Not altogether different than what happens in churches. >> >> -- >> C'est bon >> Soloman > >Perhaps but perhaps not. > >There's a difference between how to think and what to think. > The education racket has fallen from the former to the >latter but that is not inherent. I don't believe you can teach anyone how to think. I believe how much one does it, vs relying on input from external sources is an intrinsic characteristic. -- C'est bon Soloman