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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: The Old vs The New
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:25:00 -0500
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:25:13 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:17:36 -0500, shawn
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>Ideally, in my opinion,  Hamas would be gone and the Palestinian
>>people would be allowed to control their own fate but that doesn't
>>seem likely to happen in my lifetime, if ever. Israel is just helping
>>to win more people over to Hamas by their killing of innocent
>>civilians in an attempt to wipe out Hamas leaders. Which just means
>>the fighting will likely keep going on and on and on. 
>
>Given HAMAS routinely uses 'innocent civilians' as human shields if
>the Israeli soldier spots the HAMAS guy with a weapon he's going to
>shoot first and ask questions later.
>
>At best, that's going to mean a wounded civilian - which is just going
>to mean the HAMAS fighter is going to grab yetanother "shield" next
>time  he sees an Israeli.
>
>While I agree with you on your point about winning more people over,
>what's their option besides surrendering to HAMAS?

I don't know that they have one. At least not a good one. With a few
million people to hide among even preventing Hamas from launching the
occasional rocket attack is going to be impossible. 

Though I wonder if they treated the Gazan residents better if they
could have won over their support for Israel at getting rid of Hamas.
I'm not sure it could work now but at least making sure Gaza is
getting food/water/medical supplies would limit the # of people who
might support Hamas.