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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 21:27:04 +0000 From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:27:38 -0700 Message-ID: <9vpudj5f4gohn9rud5jp4r57dihqdordu7@4ax.com> References: <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vap20i$1s5cl$1@solani.org> <8dv0djhj73b0ejudpkahnojgjk30i9rrbv@4ax.com> <je01dj177m9p0q25en4k2jm8u0bsj07t2j@4ax.com> <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me> <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me> <0ns8djtqe7ct4k21h8ubnj944fonq9i0u0@4ax.com> <vbng48$2gmfl$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 53 X-Trace: sv3-lQJAjBvQ3q3YN4zQxgcAj5qYddGmPSQfnId3wr2ZntCdz0Uvu4VQ2pomMzYINcSLEW8NdR1/KQ9mqWM!Ugh0tnV/E73Bzo6tAZatJNfIUdDd6YETrXmlp9jbLmJgDofSyZJxcJWna6oHKYPeMUyJdMUTBK05!K2Lz8g4= X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3420 On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:51:52 +0100, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> wrote: >On 01/09/2024 3:09 pm, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>: >>>> >>>>> It's lot easier and quicker to bread-board a circuit in LTSpice than it >>>>> is to wire up a test circuit, but what that means is that you need to >>>>> make fewer real circuits and they are a lot more likely to work when tested. >>>>> >>>>> That, on it's own, is enough to explain why labs look different today >>>>> than they did in the dark ages. >>>> >>>> All it explains is boeings falling apart and astronuts ending up stuck at the ISS >>>> and no moonlanding from the US, not even a probe. >>>> Slimulations are _not_ realty and never will be. >>> >>> But they can capture useful parts of reality, if you know what you are >>> doing. >>> >>> John Larkin's simulated inductors tend not to have any parallel capacitance. >> >> The trick is to know when it matters. ESR and core loss are usually >> more important. >> >> I designed this surface-mount inductor for my Pockels Cell driver, >> after several tries using commercial parts. They all smoked. >> >> It's wound on a specially marked Sharpie pen that we have carefully >> reserved. >> >> https://www.highlandtechnology.com/Product/T850 >> >> The grey gap-pad gives it some extra cooling. The board has lots of >> thermal vias down to the water-cooled baseplate. >> >> >> > >That sharpie formed coil looks like the turn-to-turn air-spacing is done >by eyeball? Can you find a bolt or screw with right pitch and diameter >to make winding easier? > >piglet I recursively used another Sharpie to make some tic marks, to space the turns.