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Path: ...!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 04:28:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Torvalds Slams Theoretical Security Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$26699$6602b79b$4abe425a$df32a923@gnu.rocks> <_OmcnZpYmdE-PYX6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <wwvldyfmenf.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vfcjir$2gc7o$4@dont-email.me> <wwvv7xh1jee.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vfeh5a$2qk0v$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvhnn9i.2ou1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vfh570$3brp2$2@dont-email.me> <20241025153958.0000222f@gmail.com> <vfhbt5$3d372$2@dont-email.me> <vfhkm0$3i0mb$1@dont-email.me> <lo3dvqFo19fU2@mid.individual.net> <vfi017$3jf3g$4@dont-email.me> <aq6dnU74jY9CDoH6nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vfiem5$3m055$1@dont-email.me> <4d0a477c-ec6a-61ab-aaad-1c43a6a9436a@example.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:28:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4d0a477c-ec6a-61ab-aaad-1c43a6a9436a@example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <AH-dnaAmctcaXID6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 44 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-sLEm8W8r+nIyCAAh05+kqyCBHg1cxbRfW3rhP/4fWvJnpPMdS9lzF3D3tg2rBVhboIXKw9YF6qgfRRP!GukDaa5JGoYws787MvcqanwbdrfF7cF4G+OHDihTNV+UNRrMYV5v3obpI1Unepbh+7ragU5i03ES!w1w2pNWz4mDGSMLgtrw7 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3459 On 10/26/24 6:21 AM, D wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 26/10/2024 08:01, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> On 10/26/24 1:51 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On 26 Oct 2024 05:45:31 GMT, rbowman wrote: >>>> >>>>> About the time Heidegger asked 'Why are there beings at all rather >>>>> than >>>>> nothing?' in 'Introduction to Metaphysics' my head started to hurt. >>>>> That >>>>> was sentence 1, chapter 1. It didn't get better from there on. >>>> >>>> Did he mention the Anthropic Principle at all? >>>> >>>> That’s a controversial one. Fred Hoyle used it to predict the >>>> existence of >>>> an energetic state of the carbon atom without which heavier elements >>>> could >>>> not be synthesized. >>> >>> >>> All philosophy is bullshit - including this philosophy :-) >>> >>> >> That is the reaction of 99% of those who are exposed to it. >> >> But it isn't. It has tools enabling you to think in extremely >> different ways. >> The problem is most people think it purports to reveal Truth, but it >> doesn't. It is however and interesting study of Lies. > > Another advantage is familiarity with arguments and lines of reasoning. > If I had a penny for every time some technologist thought that he came > up with a brand new argument, for it only to turn out that it was > discussed 1000 years ago, I'd be rich! "Tech" kinda adheres to the "connectionist" paradigm. It builds on other sci-tech and practical knowledge in a roughly-ascending spiral. Lots of things were mostly re-invented - twice or thrice.