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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ... Date: 26 Jul 2024 13:37:51 GMT Organization: Stefan Ram Lines: 39 Expires: 1 Jul 2025 11:59:58 GMT Message-ID: <ASCII-20240726142804@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> References: <uvej5e$34pfl$8@dont-email.me> <v7mdjl$pq7n$3@dont-email.me> <nbcu9j5d7r8gbdngudbti83dg4agsl6knb@4ax.com> <v7u9oq$2dgbs$2@dont-email.me> <h316ajtor5bl617eb6hj50fda24gu0dd3u@4ax.com> <v7vo2i$2ou11$1@dont-email.me> <half-20240726100147@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <half-20240726134233@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v8076o$2ripg$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de iWepMzQ9gZpDoyREUFgM0gUZPDuUXao38UzRISGd3C1NZO Cancel-Lock: sha1:sWW8KcTWwJ99EeYp4djBFnGDnVU= sha256:qB2u9hMTCU8trTYjNIZkJppewm61sHPhlZNT5aRyBb0= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2024 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved. Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the Web, to change URIs of this article into links, and to transfer the body without this notice, but quotations of parts in other Usenet posts are allowed. X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is set, because this prevents some services to mirror the article in the web. But the article may be kept on a Usenet archive server with only NNTP access. X-No-Html: yes Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3454 Antonio Marques <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted: >Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: >>>ˈɹʷʊˑuɿ ᵊɹ̩ >>>and this guy was like, "I don't think that 'u' is stressed!". >(Sorry, but I can't make sense either of the characters you wrote above Here's the whole shebang in ASCII: MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE - meaning the next syllable is stressed LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R - to me that a bunched American r MODIFIER LETTER SMALL W - that r is rounded! (because it's initial) LATIN SMALL LETTER UPSILON - open "u" MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON - that open "u" is half-lenghtened LATIN SMALL LETTER U - a [u] LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED R WITH FISHHOOK - American "t" of "router" SPACE - I used it to end the syllable, similar to how Wells uses it MODIFIER LETTER SMALL SCHWA - meaning some speakers insert a schwa here LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R - another bunched American r COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW - which is syllabic . The "IPA" used above ain't your nana's brew - it's more like a souped-up Wells model with some Canepari flair and my own secret sauce thrown in. But hey, that "half-long" symbol? That's straight-up textbook IPA, no bells and whistles! PS: I ran a Python script to spit out the Unicode names from the IPA string. The script was cooked up by a chatbot after I hit it with a quick description of what I needed. Took me like a hot second to type the description, way less time than if I'd written the script myself! import unicodedata def print_unicode_names( input_string ): for char in input_string: unicode_name = unicodedata.name( char, "Unknown" ) print( unicode_name ) sample_string = "INSERT IPA HERE" print_unicode_names( sample_string )