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Le 21/01/2025 à 15:33, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 21.01.2025 11:30, skrev Richard Hachel:
>> Le 20/01/2025 à 20:24, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
>>> Den 19.01.2025 15:57, skrev Richard Hachel:
> 
>>> So according to Hachel:
>>>
>>> When Stella is back, Terrence and Stella are co-located and
>>> stationary to each other, and both can see both clocks which are
>>> side by side.
>>>
>>> Terrence can see that his watch shows 13.5 years.
>>> and Stella's watch shows  nine years.
> 
>> Yes.
> 
>>> Stella can see that her watch shows 9 years.
>>> and Terrence's clock shows 13.5 years.
> 
>> Absolutely, the opposite would be contradictory.
> 
>>>>
>>>> In every moment, every second.
>>>> Always, always, always, the opposite clock ticks slower.
>>>> In all repositories.
>>>>
>>>> ALWAYS.
>>>> This means that while Stella ages 18 years, always, always,
>>>> she will have considered, second after second, that Terrence's
>>>> clock had an internal chronotropy which was running slower.
> 
>>> 
>>> Stella can see that her watch shows 9 years.
>>> and Terrence's clock shows 13.5 years.
>>> 
>>> So Stella will have considered, second after second, that Terrence's
>>> clock had an internal chronotropy which was running slower.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Always, always, always, Stella will see that Terrence clock
>>> shows two different times at the same time.
>>> 
>>> :-D
>>> 
> 
>> I repeat again for you: "There exists, in the theory of relativity, a notion of 
>> relative chronotropy".
>> 
>> That is to say that the INTERNAL mechanism of watches, watches makes that they 
>> do not conceive of time in the same way; each watch, and it is reciprocal, notes 
>> that the other watch has a slower internal mechanism, according to the relative 
>> speed, the faster we go between them, the more the other watch has a real internal 
>> mechanism that seems to beat slowly.
>> 
>> The equation has been known since 1905: To=tau/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
>> 
>> This means (5632nd edition by Hachel, the next one is on rotary press) that 
>> second after second, Stella will consider that the INTERNAL MECHANISM of Terrence's 
>> watch beats less quickly. This means that for all the seconds of Stella's life (9 
>> years in the stars), she will consider that the internal chronotropy of Terrence's 
>> watch counts 4/3 of a second.
>> 
>> And vice versa.
>> 
>> We breathe, we exhale, and we convince ourselves that Paul has not yet 
>> understood Hachel's genius (three Nobels, a doctorate, a powerful thought 
>> nonetheless).
> 
> :-D
> 
>> 
>> Yet in the end, they compare their watches, she is nine years old, he is 13.5, 
>> and they obviously agree on that, otherwise it is absurd.
>> 
>> However, nothing interesting happened during the U-turn, she ages a few hours 
>> (let's say 24 hours), and he ages 40 hours, so it's pretty ordinary.
>> 
>> So what's happening?
>> 
>> We breathe, we blow, we let the master (Richard Hachel) speak.
>> 
>> Everything happens for Stella, as if a bad watchmaker had made a completely 
>> faulty watch for Terrence, and that the INTERNAL mechanism of the watch beat 4/3 
>> times faster if v=0.8c for example.
>> 
>> It's easy to understand. 
> 
> Of course it is easy to understand that when Stella sees that
> her watch shows 9 years and she sees that Terrence's watch
> shows 13.5 years, then Stella will consider that
> the INTERNAL MECHANISM of Terrence's watch beats less quickly,
> the opposite would be contradictory.
> 
> I have got it now, so can I please get my Nobel?