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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <BIUu7kHEMIlpD2H5wj8fSw5s4sI@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Langevin and Doppler effects... References: <b5WDgbOwGmhfWpul72-1Pn3t5Ac@jntp> <vbi8m5$1g3ev$1@dont-email.me> <Eag-OoGcu7t-d4OJd2q3_6J1q20@jntp> <vbnc2p$2gbmb$1@dont-email.me> <jEi5WPq6DnATz7TRmH6TC_JPzs4@jntp> <vbstto$3plaj$1@dont-email.me> <t-t_JsOy5bgtQXkYHDKY0O6cMKg@jntp> <vbus6g$9mj2$1@dont-email.me> <zgxExgejF-Xu8AwQyyLOskMYAL0@jntp> <gu0Z3_D7di0Vo-i10uoPfwxxt1s@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: QsE-YnVBZaGuWT7gAs9d8tHS63E JNTP-ThreadID: CYLtGqZRiaVP5Ae1IQxcz5HcvgI JNTP-ReferenceUserID: 190@nemoweb.net JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=BIUu7kHEMIlpD2H5wj8fSw5s4sI@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Thu, 12 Sep 24 16:08:59 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/128.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-09-12T16:08:59Z/9019798"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 3213 Lines: 44 Le 12/09/2024 à 17:32, Python a écrit : > Le 12/09/2024 à 16:41, Richard Hachel a écrit : >> Le 12/09/2024 à 16:00, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : >>> >>> This is the statement I responded to. >>> >>> It was YOU who introduced Stella's view ("for Stella"). >>> You even called it "the key to the paradox" and "the brilliant explanation". >>> If Stella shall return to Terrence, she _must_ accelerate during >>> her journey, so Stella's frame is always an accelerated frame of >>> reference (in flat spacetime). >>> >>> But it isn't beautiful, even if it true. >>> >>> Stella's view is rather pointless. >>> >>> As I said: >>> Nothing happens to Terrence clock, it runs normally. >>> It is _only_ Stella's idea of what is simultaneous that >>> make it appear that Terrence clock run fast. >>> >>> If you change Stella's path in Terrence frame a little, >>> Stella's view of Terrence may change it a lot, because >>> Stella's idea of what is simultaneous changes. >>> (You can change the path without changing Stella's and Terrence's proper >>> times.) >>> >>> If we describes the "twin paradox" in Terrence's inertial frame, >>> Stella's view adds nothing of interest. >>> >>> So we can do without Stella's view of Terrence. >>> It is certainly not "the key to the paradox". >>> >>> > > t'es vraiment con comme un balai : tu as foutu toute ta "réponse" en ... > signature. > > you are stupid as stone: you put your entire "answer" in ... your signature. > > Trump is inspiring you, I'd say :-) Trump 2024 !!! R.H.