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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 04:07:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <9tDIO.25203$afc4.21891@fx42.iad> <llgvjcF5rlhU3@mid.individual.net> <59JIO.96321$WtV9.10707@fx10.iad> <vd8bou$15h6g$2@dont-email.me> <18udnd3mEtEGfGX7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdap5d$1kp35$4@dont-email.me> <fcKcnSXE3MsnqWf7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <D0rKO.165127$EEm7.5633@fx16.iad> <vddevg$24fps$4@dont-email.me> <llv1scFa6uvU1@mid.individual.net> <D-6cnfCih5UIy2f7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvflggs.lr8.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <pan$177f8$17178cab$c1086257$7a39b6f7@linux.rocks> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 00:07:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <pan$177f8$17178cab$c1086257$7a39b6f7@linux.rocks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <Btycnd1FwtZrW2H7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 47 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-yKORAT8djgo5AgCsrcfBmT3IYbQOvhzaaeSoE0CEnkDaGk1Qyx08AhfMxfmYrHQHexMZS28DFLNfw6Y!U9WUWw92WdAC4dwzC+mrslTisRLhaGmZVT4z07D4PVqcXfv/2oCgA1WejhpnSUpCsHedcXtXC+sf!x+f6ilM3P6o9QMo6K215 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3398 On 10/1/24 3:54 AM, Farley Flud wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:40:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote: > >> >> Then, people ignore the problem until it's right there. >> For instance, the 2038 problem I'm betting will be ignored until 2035. >> > > Hasn't the 2038 problem already been fixed? > > GNU/Linux has had 64-bit time for many years already. It's not just HAVING 64/128-bit vars. Gotta look at every function, every line. The original pgmr likely specified 32-bit vars for a of of the date-related stuff because, well, datetime is always 32 bit, right ? Hey, the cdates/mdates on FILES too ...... The swamp just gets deeper and deeper. There are kind of the literal gazillion bits of code in dozens of languages created from the late 1950s on that are inside apps/systems everywhere today that in some way deal with, depend on, datetimes. In the ancient days, there was an ultra-nerd named Bill Gates who used to participate in, often win, contests to see who could code some useful function in the very least number of bytes/cycles. Bill was something of a hero figure then. However, he wrote that code using the ASSUMPTIONS of the day. Betcha there's still some of his old code in modern systems. As such, only "AI" is going to be able to deal with such volume and diversity. It will have to be trained to detect datetime operations and literally re-write the relevant code. And we'd better make/train it QUICKLY.