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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <C1WPbuJtFHuqvuwto_L64FOCzIE@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Langevin and Doppler effects... References: <b5WDgbOwGmhfWpul72-1Pn3t5Ac@jntp> <Eag-OoGcu7t-d4OJd2q3_6J1q20@jntp> <vbnc2p$2gbmb$1@dont-email.me> <jEi5WPq6DnATz7TRmH6TC_JPzs4@jntp> <vbstto$3plaj$1@dont-email.me> <t-t_JsOy5bgtQXkYHDKY0O6cMKg@jntp> <vbus6g$9mj2$1@dont-email.me> <zgxExgejF-Xu8AwQyyLOskMYAL0@jntp> <gu0Z3_D7di0Vo-i10uoPfwxxt1s@jntp> <BIUu7kHEMIlpD2H5wj8fSw5s4sI@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: fldA38UEojQAjewCvXCwsYODoBc JNTP-ThreadID: CYLtGqZRiaVP5Ae1IQxcz5HcvgI JNTP-ReferenceUserID: 4@nemoweb.net JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=C1WPbuJtFHuqvuwto_L64FOCzIE@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Thu, 12 Sep 24 16:29:38 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.0 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="4a7470778c703158af1579c130ebaf5d646d69fd"; logging-data="2024-09-12T16:29:38Z/9019833"; posting-account="190@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Python <python@not-formail.invalid> Bytes: 3332 Lines: 51 Le 12/09/2024 à 18:08, Richard Hachel a écrit : > Le 12/09/2024 à 17:32, Python a écrit : >> Le 12/09/2024 à 16:41, Richard Hachel a écrit : >>> Le 12/09/2024 à 16:00, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : >>>> >>>> This is the statement I responded to. >>>> >>>> It was YOU who introduced Stella's view ("for Stella"). >>>> You even called it "the key to the paradox" and "the brilliant explanation". >>>> If Stella shall return to Terrence, she _must_ accelerate during >>>> her journey, so Stella's frame is always an accelerated frame of >>>> reference (in flat spacetime). >>>> >>>> But it isn't beautiful, even if it true. >>>> >>>> Stella's view is rather pointless. >>>> >>>> As I said: >>>> Nothing happens to Terrence clock, it runs normally. >>>> It is _only_ Stella's idea of what is simultaneous that >>>> make it appear that Terrence clock run fast. >>>> >>>> If you change Stella's path in Terrence frame a little, >>>> Stella's view of Terrence may change it a lot, because >>>> Stella's idea of what is simultaneous changes. >>>> (You can change the path without changing Stella's and Terrence's proper >>>> times.) >>>> >>>> If we describes the "twin paradox" in Terrence's inertial frame, >>>> Stella's view adds nothing of interest. >>>> >>>> So we can do without Stella's view of Terrence. >>>> It is certainly not "the key to the paradox". >>>> >>>> >> >> t'es vraiment con comme un balai : tu as foutu toute ta "réponse" en ... >> signature. >> >> you are stupid as stone: you put your entire "answer" in ... your signature. >> >> Trump is inspiring you, I'd say :-) > > Trump 2024 !!! > > R.H. <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?C1WPbuJtFHuqvuwto_L64FOCzIE@jntp/Data.Media:1> https://ibb.co/YXQbVth