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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 02:40:57 +0000 Subject: Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <slrn1016uic.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <68194581@news.ausics.net> <vvbook$1oubc$1@dont-email.me> <681aa121@news.ausics.net> <wwvcyckspu8.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <3aorelxelu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <wwv7c2sf69b.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <681be760@news.ausics.net> <vvh338$1c1cf$2@dont-email.me> <681c316b@news.ausics.net> <qRednV9ChabBz4H1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <vvhkl1$1d201$1@news1.tnib.de> <vvih8a$1sigj$2@dont-email.me> <lM6TP.59217$v2h6.50976@fx14.iad> <vvj4l8$24152$1@dont-email.me> <wwvldr6bxg0.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vvjen1$27pe4$4@dont-email.me> <vvjnlq$2bbhn$1@dont-email.me> <gtrTP.58424$FH88.24438@fx12.iad> <vvlo42$3113m$1@dont-email.me> <sCtTP.79458$bRfb.70101@fx16.iad> <vvltfq$32av4$2@dont-email.me> <%BwTP.8396$rdEd.2575@fx39.iad> <681f303f$0$16814$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <eIMTP.389950$C51b.17594@fx17.iad> <m89psfF5fl8U2@mid.individual.net> <vvopgc$3q3d3$1@dont-email.me> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 22:40:52 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vvopgc$3q3d3$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <CRKdndLyL4ykk731nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 55 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-EjmltfRNX87khtcjORZQ4YeWWrsdAL6BL0/5EhBIm5aG4r8T9OrUPi6qJKe1cKW7huPLDApkrc0oNO9!hmSMMD/vTCYTxiWFV5O+djCLcrGDwvWd5tb8gPftFN3AtisYalq9BhrHUxTkaq+FwZmeTwEMOQ3n X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4227 On 5/10/25 8:03 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/05/2025 21:05, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 10 May 2025 18:14:34 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2025-05-10, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Le 09-05-2025, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> The late John W. Campbell, in one of his thought-provoking editorials >>>>> in Analog Science Fact<->Fiction in the 1960s, pointed out that it's >>>>> not power that corrupts. People are much less likely to abuse power >>>>> if they can be held accountable >>>> >>>> It's not that new. Platon already spoke about this with his >>>> invisibility ring. But that's not the reason I answered you. The reason >>>> is: >>>> >>>>> (which is why the A-word is hated and feared among politicians). >>>> >>>> Sorry, I'm French and I really don't know what the A-word could be. >>> >>> Accountability. Politicians talk a good line about openness, >>> transparency, accountability, etc. - but in actual fact they hate and >>> fear these things, and work tirelessly (and usually clandestinely) to >>> minimize these threats to their power by building immunity. >> >> My first thought was 'Anarchism'. Politicians despise the thought that >> people can organize themselves without their enlightened guidance. I'll >> admit that once you go beyond the theoretical there have always been >> implementation problems but the answer is not more and more centralized >> power. > > No. > > There are even signs that King Donald is beginning to realise that. > > System theory show a centralised feedback system either fails to respond > to change or goes unstable. > > You need local systems with clearly defined feedback paths and > responsibilities and a light touch of overall guidance. Fine, in 1824 Missouri. However everything has MUCH broader reach/impact these days. Sorry, but MORE super-org IS required. Yep, can sometimes SUCK ... but without it things can suck even more. Think about it. Hmmmm ... now can we leverage Linux to help take care of all this ?