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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 03:18:54 -0500
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On 2/9/25 2:54 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 23:36:12 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>     Maybe the best cross-over was Professor Wirth with Pascal/Modula.
>>     Alas it was a shorter fence to straddle back then ....
> 
> Before it was adapted for the real world Pascal was known as a language
> that excelled at telling itself secrets. I/O was an afterthought. Lisp
> needed some improvement before it was useful too.
> 
> Didactic computer languages tend to emphasize concepts over utility. I
> spent a winter a long time ago working my way through the Wizard book
> which used Scheme. I found the concepts interesting but the back of my
> mind kept saying 'Why would you ever do it this way?'

   For the record, I just LOVE Pascal ... still do
   lots of apps small and large in FPC/Lazarus. May
   proto in Python, but often the goal is to re-do
   it in Pascal.

   SOME languages are a little TOO much 'ideology'.

   Wirth managed to balance the equation. Both
   ideology AND very practical.

   I started using Pascal back with the pink-label
   multi-pass IBM compilers. Never went back. 'C'
   is Just Great - but Pascal is far more easy to
   *understand* and is just 'elegant'.

   STILL have a VM of DOS with the multi-pass
   Pascal compiler - and DO stuff in it from
   time to time.