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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 23:40:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:40:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF? Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android References: <g5udnXdFRadBELT7nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> <l99k2aFgv11U1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <l99k2aFgv11U1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <GFCdnY2VDdebra37nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 26 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-wjRyh9S5EdgkibrzLjlxaC/Adb3rDe2Biii/Udz6Tabdb70R1zjrWhPslU5T8CAwG4b3D5/76760buz!M9IZ4qFAf2UECUlNr4VR0+rUTzPdDgrEgdneCdHf4tI+FvqR8pY1XgD50oiJOK23I/wj3RdxBk2R X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2299 On 4/29/24 09:02, Arno Welzel wrote: > bad sector, 2024-04-25 00:55: > >> The net is full of people having issues with phones they only thought >> were OFF. My android Zflip is even worse that a simple conventional >> design. Most times I turn it OFF/ON to be sure, there being no obvious, >> bulletproof, always in your face, indication which should be a prerequisite. > > Well - as long as you did not explicitely did POWER OFF the phone it is > not turned off. And "power off" means you press and HOLD the power > button until a menu appears where you can select to POWER OFF the > device. Just turning the display off by pressing the power buttons > briefly is not enough of course. There has been a bit of misunderstanding since my OP in which I raised two issues. When I said "they only thought were OFF" I obviously meant 'on-hook' although an unwanted power-on state could in and of itself also kill you in the wrong situation. After that MY workaround of powering off TO ASSURE THAT IT IS ON-HOOK clouded the issue I think, but both issues remain IMO extremely important all the time.