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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <HMYdw0y7VC05exszud0h5rQwt6Y@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Important to know Python opinion on this... References: <QsysQnpetTSlB_zDsjAhnCKqnbg@jntp> <O-L1WgU1eCsz14Wrc6D7tpNPV7s@jntp> <v8fkn6$23nee$1@dont-email.me> <FS7BRIsxO-_X20VxXPebSsjPIt4@jntp> <v8gpr4$2c66e$1@dont-email.me> <1r17YwSTuu_yFwJ8Mj7O-umZb_M@jntp> <v8jd83$2vsa3$1@dont-email.me> <aGJtGFi-pcZdeYKlbLrP7fJkFGw@jntp> <v8m3tk$3k7em$1@dont-email.me> <n6nnyNLQR1tXDC_uShX3k3bxE5g@jntp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: -7vtFMDMJFRQA_o9h6iDod5dbdE JNTP-ThreadID: XgGFOrcTXd5ZDEX07aa-LTy0U04 JNTP-ReferenceUserID: 4@news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=HMYdw0y7VC05exszud0h5rQwt6Y@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 06 Aug 24 21:50:05 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/127.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-08-06T21:50:05Z/8978154"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> Bytes: 3961 Lines: 77 Le 03/08/2024 à 23:40, Richard Hachel a écrit : > Le 03/08/2024 à 22:28, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : >> Since the rocket is moving along the x-axis' >> the angle velocity - (direction to star) = 37⁰, >> the RA in the rocket frame will due to aberration be 12.7⁰ >> the DEC = 0. >> Since the rocket and the Earth are colocated at the time of reception, >> they will obviously receive the same light which was emitted from >> the star 15000 years ago. >> That means that the distance in the Rocket frame must be 15000 ly. >> >> Simple geometry will give: >> x' = 15000⋅cos(12.7⁰) ly = 14633 ly >> y' = 15000⋅sin(12.7⁰) ly = 3297 ly >> z' = 0 ly >> t' = -15000/c year = -15000 year >> >> E '= (14633 ly, 3297 ly, 0 ly, -15000 y) > > ? ? ? > > <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?n6nnyNLQR1tXDC_uShX3k3bxE5g@jntp/Data.Media:1> > > > But what are you talking about? ? ? > > You're talking nonsense!!! > > Your thing IS nonsense! > > How do you want the object to be at the same distance in both frames of > reference? ? ? > > All this is sad to cry and you show EXACTLY what I have been saying for years, > namely that physicists do not understand anything at all about the theory of > relativity, and use mathematics in a completely ridiculous and anarchic way! > > But this is nonsense, Paul!!! > > You practice a stupid rotation, and we can clearly see all the stupidity of the > Minkowski space-time block, stupid and abstract. > > PAUL, PAUL, PAUL, I beg you to understand something! > > There is NO rotation, there is NO change in y, nor change in z. > > Poincaré was right and his geometry is magnificent, and we must take up its > numerical applications again. > > y'=y=9ly > z'=z=0ly > > This is dramatically simple. > > x=12 ly > x'=40 ly > > To=15 ly > To'=41ly > > t'=t=0 > > There is a relativistic translation on the x-axis. > > NOTHING MORE. > > This produces a ROTATION OF THE AXIS OF VIEW, but NOT of the star!!! > > But damn it, if you don't understand that, you who are one of the best posters > of relativity, we are in a terrible mess, and we will never progress. > > R.H. > > <http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=n6nnyNLQR1tXDC_uShX3k3bxE5g@jntp> I would like Python's opinion on this. R.H.