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On 5/27/25 7:37 AM, Borax Man wrote:
> On 2025-05-27, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2025 11:11:37 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>
>>> You see, they just assumed that Linux was free of politics, and
>>> opinionated vendors, but that isn't necessarily the case.
>>
>> There is no getting away from “politics”. As someone once said, “the
>> personal is the political”. When you choose to give money to a proprietary
>> company, you are giving them more power -- not just economic power, but
>> also political power. Do they exercise that power wisely, for the good of
>> their customers and the rest of the world? Or do they use it to maximize
>> their own short-term profits, and to hell with the long-term consequences?
>>
>> You know the answer to that as well as I do.
>>
>> When a business chooses to use software that is made available under Free
>> Software licences, they may not think they are doing it for any
>> “political” (by which they mean “ideological”) reasons: they may say they
>> do it just because it gives them more control to chart their own course
>> and remain competitive in today’s unpredictable market. But such decisions
>> have “political” consequences anyway.
> 
> That is a Left wing take, which often is used to justify injecting
> politics where it is not appropriate, or asked for.  The idea is that
> because everything is political, you better pre-empt and put your
> politics in first.
> 
> By "Getting away from politics", it means getting away from exactly
> that, people who use the organisations they enter, to push their own
> particular political and moral stances.  Some distro make very specific
> political statements, some make none.  Many of us would prefer they made
> none.


   Interesting perspective.

   I don't think Linus meant to be so 'political', beyond
   freeing a good idea from extreme corporate profiteering.
   That's sort-of 'left', but there ARE subtle issues too.

   IF there was no Linux/BSD then the whole Unix paradigm
   would have perished LONG ago - lost to history like so
   many others. Oh woe VMS !

   So, for maybe arguable 'commie' intent, Linus wound up
   doing a GOOD thing. He kept a great paradigm alive
   which would have perished if purely capitalist/greed
   was involved. When IBM bought RHEL ... a very 'karma'
   thing indeed  :-)

   Lesson - do not be too quick to employ hard-line
   ideology. Too many Good Ideas will perish.