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On 3/7/25 3:49 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 02:53:01 -0500
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/6/25 2:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/03/2025 16:55, Dan Cross wrote:
>>>> In article <Martin-20250306163721@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
>>>> Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote or quoted:
>>>>>> That describes Martin's books to a T, I think.  He writes very
>>>>>> well, but what he writes, maybe not so much.
>>>>>
>>>>>    I first got to know Robert on Usenet, in comp.objects. Later, I read
>>>>>    something in his book about the difference between object-oriented
>>>>>    and structured, which hits the nail on the head regarding the
>>>>>    crucial point about which of the two paradigms has what advantages.
>>>>>    At least 99 percent of people who talk about this topic don't get
>>>>>    this point. That's why Robert is head and shoulders above Herbert
>>>>>    in my book - even if Martin might make the occasional mistake.
>>>>
>>>> I mean, two times something that is very close to zero is still
>>>> very close to zero.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>      - Dan C.
>>>>
>>> No, its *twice as far away* from zero.
>>
>>     Ok ... that CAN be a valid way of looking at it !  :-)
>>
>>     But "still almost ZERO" also is.
>>
>>     Just wondering ... this thread has drifted vastly
>>     towards old mainframes/minis that haven't existed
>>     for a LONG time and never will again. Whatever
>>     skills/experiences we had with them - great fun, but
>>     obsolete to the extreme except as "historical interest".
> 
> I guess that's why afc is in the xpost to colm


   Well, this stuff is, or SHOULD BE, of "general
   interest".

   But, I have certain doubts.


>>     Very carefully applied, some of those Old Lessons MIGHT
>>     inform Future Developments. Alas, arrogance/blindness
>>     maybe, often DON'T. With computers, only the last 5
>>     years seems REAL to most. A very narrow window. As
>>     such little is learned from the past.
> 
> 

   Lots of humbug ......... what's new ?