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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:20:15 -0800
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On 11/23/2024 11:21 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 11/23/2024 10:58 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> On 11/22/2024 09:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2024 01:03 PM, rhertz wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 20:30:39 +0000, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip all the history of your life. You didn't read my disclaimer>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line:
>>>>>> It doesn't matter how you put energy into a closed cavity.
>>>>>> In the cavity there will be a black body radiation with
>>>>>> temperature equal to the temperature of the walls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reflectivity, albedo or colour of the inner surface
>>>>>> of the cavity are irrelevant. The radiation in the cavity
>>>>>> will always be black body radiation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make a hole in your cavity, and you have a perfect
>>>>>> black body radiation source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its temperature will not be very high, though-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now smile, asshole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not a BB radiation source!
>>>>>
>>>>> You ignored the fact that the heat goes away from the cavity. It
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> remain neither inside nor outside. It's eliminated by cooling
>>>>> mechanisms, as I wrote as an initial condition. Read all the posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no light energy left within the cavity, nor heat energy
>>>>> outside
>>>>> it. You better think again about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You also ignored my post apologizing to all people that
>>>>> participated in
>>>>> this thread. That makes you a bigger ASSHOLE than what I thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, start thinking in my NEXT IDEA:
>>>>>
>>>>> Willing to try to prove/disprove E=mc² at a macroscopic level, I'll
>>>>> think of an experiment that incorporates electromagnetic oscillations
>>>>> passing through the cavity, which will be converted in a CAPACITOR, by
>>>>> cutting it in halves and isolating them with a thin ring.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I propose to MEASURE is the changes in the frequency of the LC
>>>>> oscillator, within a time window of about 3 msec, which repeats
>>>>> permanently.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll use a relationship between mass and capacitance for the cavity,
>>>>> with frequency around 1 Mhz or greater.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a failed idea for an experiment, but there are OTHER WAYS to
>>>>> check E=mc² at a macroscopic level, without resorting to nuclear
>>>>> energy
>>>>> crap (Kg evaporated vs. energy provided), or else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask ChatGPT:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> any other non-relativistic means to prove E=mc^2?
>>>>> or
>>>>> Is there any way to prove E=mc^2 at higher level than quantum?
>>>>> or
>>>>> can I use electrostatic energy?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The last one gave interesting insights. Ask to it sequentially the
>>>>> above
>>>>> lines.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep smiling, asshole.
>>>>
>>>> In more civil times we'd just say, "see you later, alligator",
>>>> then the other fellow would say, "in a while, crocodile".
>>>>
>>>> Swearing was considered something trash did,
>>>> or perhaps someone who just stubbed themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Toss your prayer-booth this "super-imposed neutral linac
>>>> and charged cyclotron, measuring while switching on
>>>> and off, each" and see what results. Here if I posed it
>>>> to the large language model, then I'd also prompt it
>>>> reasons what to provide the configuration and energy
>>>> of experiment, and have here a book detailing the
>>>> principles of construction.
>>>>
>>>> This is where Einstein's second-mass famous mass-energy
>>>> equivalence derivation arrives at this from fundamentally
>>>> different principles for the nominally (at least) non-linear
>>>> and furthermore the formally rotating, setting.
>>>>
>>>> And some people even dare to think that "infinity"
>>>> isn't a natural unit, ....
>>>
>>> ohhh, puleeassee..'infinity might be in a world of 'a natural unit
>>> ...number', but infinity is a not....physical.
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't exist in the physical world...only exist in the ...mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In an imaginary  mind a 'physical infinity' would be like a...
>>>
>>> puzzel
>>> where
>>> the edge
>>> of the
>>> puzzel
>>> has no edge
>>> so you
>>> are
>>> forever
>>> adding
>>> pieces
>>> of
>>> the
>>> puzzel
>>> forever
>>> to
>>> no
>>> ends.
>>>
>>>
>>> It ain't happening.
>>>
>>>
>>> wake up
>>> you're dreaming.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That "natural units" bit was about light, because saying that
>> c is used as a "natural unit", a unity, has that it's only
>> ever used as an infinity, about "v < c".
>>
>> The 0 m/s, is, infinity s/m.
>>
>> Then, sometimes that's like "differential geometry", someone
>> says "well we don't have d = infinity, furthermore now we've
>> elimited d = 0, as 1/0+ = infinity, and voila bunch of forms,
>> and it's like, that's great, Roger Coates, your forms discovered
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