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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 01:18:59 +0000 Subject: Re: The Universe Is Not A Sphere (continuous domain, infinity and laws of large numbers) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <fba4f14050cf7d238a88b4d7e3e88093@www.novabbs.com> <bf735594dff7dd8051c2646906cee9dc@www.novabbs.com> <31fff23251c0d103984b135dc57cbfd4@www.novabbs.com> <laednbN1xs_LfK76nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com> <6742e97c$0$527$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <eMednZITveAV8N76nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <lqlikmF5mhU1@mid.individual.net> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 17:18:24 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <lqlikmF5mhU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <I_SdneOpc6ce7tv6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 106 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-l7vWi+1ChDsOaqsqh4MteiDrpgx67phDbuoN/MDsDDFftefZVUq4yaaruIi+YMA4NB6uH3x2Dn7kUzx!envnajKUuQSB3Iqutf5MewiATZK+9+F6blIxjh8jKRp+H+NK3m1XXcwSxslvUtj3/ddCWpK1nMRo X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5080 On 11/26/2024 01:27 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Sonntag000024, 24.11.2024 um 19:16 schrieb Ross Finlayson: >> On 11/24/2024 12:53 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/12/2024 02:57 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>> Riemann was a brilliant geometer who made the elementary error of >>>>> reifying space by claiming parallel lines could meet. Schwarzschild >>>>> and >>>>> Einstein carried through with that mistake, making people believe >>>>> it was >>>>> intelligent. >>>> >>>> Art students know there's a point at infinity. > > 'at' and 'point' mean essentially the same thing. > > But it is, of course, wrong to assign a point to infinity, because > infinity is not a point and it is impossible to be there (hence there is > no 'at'). > > >>> A whole line at infinity of them, even, >>> >>> Jan >>> >> >> One idea about the quadrant is to shrink it to a box, > > It is also impossible to shrink infinity in any way, because infinity > will remain infinitely large, even after significant shrinking. > >> given that the ray from origin (in a Cartesian space) >> in x = y is an "identity dimension" and rather "original" >> itself, then that the hyperbola, xy = 1 andx = 1/y and y = 1/x, >> its corner, is parameterized to go out the identity line >> and result in the limit connecting (0, \infty) and (\infty, 0). > > > > inf = 1/0 > > hence > > inf * 0 =1 > > hence > > 0/inf = 1/inf² > > ;-) > > but infinity is also not a number! > > > TH > ... The "infinity, mathematical" is an interesting thing, I enjoy studying it and have studied it since at least thirty years, though also at least about forty-five years ago the word "INFINITY" was in the language. Sort of like "ALL" and other universals - INFINITY is always in the context. That "infinity-many iota-values either sum to or produce 1", is the idea of standard infinitesimals that just like a line integral and the line elements or path integral, in a line, and path elements, makes that mathematical and the mathematical physics particularly has infinity. Are you familiar with "mathematical formalism the modern mathematics way: axiomatic set theory with descriptive set theory in model theory"? See, here there are at least three models of continuous domains, where the usual account of "set theory's" (really meaning the "a standard linear curriculum" as with regards to what "mathematical foundations", is, i.e. set theory plus models of rationals after integers then LUB and measure 1.0 furthermore axioms), the usual account, has one, the Archimedean field reals, that here there are first line reals, or infinitely-many constant iota-values in a row, line-reals, then field-reals for example by the standard formalism, then signal-reals, and getting involved with real halving- and doubling- spaces that taking individua of continua sometimes doubles and sometimes halves, the real analytical character. So, I must imagine that you have each these three kinds of continuous domains in your theory, as with regards then to various law(s), plural, of large numbers (infinities, actually, effectively, practically, or potentially). Surely your mathematical physics for real analysis at some point employs these three, not inter-changeable or equi-interpretable, yet according to "bridges" or "ponts" pretty much the integers or bounds, like they are called the path integral or real numbers or signal theory. Yes, no?