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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Largest animal genome 91 billion base-pairs. Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:22:07 -0700 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 50 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <Id6cnZxCyZ19M1v7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> References: <va5gh2$vb$1@dont-email.me> <w8Wdnb3hKoRPOFv7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="56720"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: <poster@giganews.com> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4353B22986F; Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:23:12 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304A822978C for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:23:10 -0400 (EDT) id 1A76D5DC29; Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE965DC26 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:23:09 +0000 (UTC) by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A236C60CCF for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:19:46 +0000 (UTC) by serv-1.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DE44406F8 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:22:08 -0500 (CDT) by serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 47M3M8sX027265; Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:22:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:22:07 +0000 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <w8Wdnb3hKoRPOFv7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5480 On 8/21/24 7:43 PM, John Harshman wrote: > On 8/21/24 12:51 PM, RonO wrote: >> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07830-1 >> >> paywalled, but Science news article: >> >> https://www.science.org/content/article/odd-fish-has-30-times-much-dna-humans-new-record-animals >> >> They have just identified the new largest animal genome, but unlike >> amphibians that duplicated their whole genomes over and over to create >> their large genomes this lobe-finned fish (a species of lungfish) >> enlarged it's genome by failing to regulate the multiplication of >> transposons. It has a 91 billion base-pair genome, but still only as >> many genes as related lobe-finned fish (lobe-finned fish gave rise to >> tetrapods). It has roughly the same number of genes that humans have, >> but it's genome is 30 times larger. Allowing transposons to run >> rampant has increased it's genome size with copies of transposons by >> about 3 billion base-pairs every 10 million years. >> >> Transposons are parasitic bits of DNA that can replicate and move from >> place to place in the genome. Because of their parasitic nature they >> have been lumped into junk DNA, but they often do have functional >> genes, and take their own transcription regulatory sequences with them >> when the hop around the genome, so they have some function, but it >> isn't geared to helping out the host. They just use the host cells to >> keep replicating more copies of themselves. Jumping into genes causes >> genetic diseases and jumping around genes can cause differential >> regulation of the surrounding genes, so they cause insertion mutations >> that do affect the organism, but like other mutations, most of the >> mutations are benign, some of them are bad, and a few of them may do >> some interesting things. At this time for this lungfish probably >> nearly all new transposition events are likely messing up existing >> transposon sequence. About 90% of the genome seems to be transposon >> sequence at this time, but my guess is that most of the remaining 90% >> is just old transposon sequence that has been mutated to the extent >> that they can't recognize the fragments as once being transposons. >> >> Ron Okimoto >> > That's Lepidosiren paradoxa. It's been known for a long time that it has > a huge genome, and that the other lungfish also have huge genomes. In > fact, it appears that Protopterus aethyopicus has an even bigger one. So > no huge surprise here, just greater detail on *why* it has a huge genome. > > Check out the animal genome size database: > http://www.genomesize.com/results.php?page=1 > Ah, I see it's actually the largest animal genome *sequenced so far*. It may be the 4th or 5th largest, and possibly the second-largest to get that way without polyploidy.