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Path: ...!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:37:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics References: <67EF682D.135A@ix.netcom.com> <67F01AE8.5A1A@ix.netcom.com> <ItidnXXXTbPXrm36nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 12:37:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <ItidnXXXTbPXrm36nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <IiqdnXqB2r2KqG36nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 77 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-nvnLr3yS4F3UXNVRhkJ9mLLxpzCi8Xw6mf2C5s6xcgzAjBZZ8T0LYeTDcjwaID84K9jKmaBQWZ8E2Bw!78pRDfxzmAQCYzaCwy/qT5yydmi/SmIRAk87l0F5TM7IJJoXNgodUQ1SVJIDao1z0n/JCkR5Dec= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3676 On 04/04/2025 12:29 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 04/04/2025 10:46 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> Stephen Hawking once asked: >>> >>> Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? >>> >>> If Stephen Hawking would like an answer >>> to that question, has he ever consider >>> asking a woman that question? >>> >>> I don't mean a woman scientist.. >>> >>> i mean, just any woman. >>> >>> Where did Stephen Hawking get the idea he is >>> entitled to know the answer? >>> >>> Is he Moses? >> >> I was under the impression that Stephen Hawking was an atheist. >> >> But he refers to the universe as a person, a being, a self that feels >> "bother".. >> >> >> Why is Stephen Hawking soooo bothered by a bothered universe? >> >> >> Mother Nature? >> >> >> Is something bothering here? >> >> >> >> >> Yous science guys make no sense... >> >> >> >> >> > > That's the old "fundamental question of metaphysics", > that books like Genesis and John intend to entail, > as for a space-time and a language to ponder it, > then as with regards to why thusly a sort of > strong mathematical platonism and strong logicist positivism, > make for a sort of strong mathematical universe hypothesis, > it's called the fundamental question of metaphysics, > and the philosophy of physics then is meant to reflect > on "Foundations", which are a sort of altogether. > > It's sort of like Born's "Restless Universe", about > some "root probabilistic flaw" in otherwise an empty > void or static universe, what makes for a theory that's > a physics that's a sum-of-histories sum-of-potentials > with least-action and least gradient, of which there's > a science that happens to always concur, that any sort > of reasonably apt reasoning agent can sort of establish > as via a "Principle of Sufficient, and Thorough, Reason", > the reason the rationality the natural the real, > that it's not much like Born's "Restless Universe", > which is more of a quantum theorist's lament the > indeterminism, that may be a simple enough consequence > of the deliberation and contemplation of a mathematical > universe, which is a continuum mechanics again, and > a heno-theory, with an ideal physics, and an analytical physics. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L1BV3HAExU "Logos 2000: end runaround"