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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!sewer!alphared!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Ancient tetrapod predator Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 07:18:43 -0700 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 35 Sender: news%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <IqydnauvOc3ZMhv7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> References: <v64hts$2c71d$3@dont-email.me> <E6-cnfv2qZWQShj7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <v64tu2$2ej0p$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="78664"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: <poster@giganews.com> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 333A122987A; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:18:46 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3D6229878 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:18:44 -0400 (EDT) id B849F7D131; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41877D009 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:18:46 +0000 (UTC) by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C588E607EF for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 14:17:34 +0000 (UTC) by serv-3.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200FC4406B8 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 09:18:45 -0500 (CDT) by serv-3.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 464EIiXd062055; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 09:18:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-3.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 14:18:44 +0000 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v64tu2$2ej0p$1@dont-email.me> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4080 On 7/3/24 6:29 PM, RonO wrote: > On 7/3/2024 5:56 PM, John Harshman wrote: >> On 7/3/24 3:04 PM, RonO wrote: >>> https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/fossils-show-huge-salamanderlike-predator-sharp-fangs-existed-111645297 >>> >>> The giant salamander with fangs may have lived 280 million years ago, >>> and they claim that Namibia was in a much colder region of the world >>> at that time (they claim glacial region). >>> >>> Click on the link in the fourth paragraph and you can get a copy of >>> the Nature article to read, otherwise the article is pay walled. >>> >>> Ron Okimoto >>> >> What do you mean by "they claim"? Are you trying to cast doubt on the >> Permian glaciation? There's plenty of evidence for it. >> > > Why would you think that I was casting doubt on their claims. That's more or less what "they claim" connotes. Perhaps you misspoke? > The paper > indicates that if the region of Pangea that is now Namibia was as cold > as they think, then amphibians had adapted to colder climates after > diversification during the Caboniferous. "As cold as they think" is hardly a matter of "if". That part of Gondwana was near the south pole at the time, and there's all sorts of evidence of a protracted series of ice ages. There were of course interglacials, but there would still have been very long, cold winters. Think Alaska. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Paleozoic_icehouse