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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:30:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics References: <67EF682D.135A@ix.netcom.com> <67F01AE8.5A1A@ix.netcom.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 12:29:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <67F01AE8.5A1A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <ItidnXXXTbPXrm36nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 71 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-j6k/uBuFbAAsLAO+KrczaPVlVEY7s9G4C77AMH9PwYDTuhmgNItutnMNd3YV09h+Bie6Av5moG86XWZ!ChkI5ZKYNiTF3uCEhqu+1Uohj/EM3yIXV+umH8kYO2LYPA7I1lDZbFRfkc/RtMuZ5Zp/PIqfVNk= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3385 On 04/04/2025 10:46 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Stephen Hawking once asked: >> >> Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? >> >> If Stephen Hawking would like an answer >> to that question, has he ever consider >> asking a woman that question? >> >> I don't mean a woman scientist.. >> >> i mean, just any woman. >> >> Where did Stephen Hawking get the idea he is >> entitled to know the answer? >> >> Is he Moses? > > I was under the impression that Stephen Hawking was an atheist. > > But he refers to the universe as a person, a being, a self that feels > "bother".. > > > Why is Stephen Hawking soooo bothered by a bothered universe? > > > Mother Nature? > > > Is something bothering here? > > > > > Yous science guys make no sense... > > > > > That's the old "fundamental question of metaphysics", that books like Genesis and John intend to entail, as for a space-time and a language to ponder it, then as with regards to why thusly a sort of strong mathematical platonism and strong logicist positivism, make for a sort of strong mathematical universe hypothesis, it's called the fundamental question of metaphysics, and the philosophy of physics then is meant to reflect on "Foundations", which are a sort of altogether. It's sort of like Born's "Restless Universe", about some "root probabilistic flaw" in otherwise an empty void or static universe, what makes for a theory that's a physics that's a sum-of-histories sum-of-potentials with least-action and least gradient, of which there's a science that happens to always concur, that any sort of reasonably apt reasoning agent can sort of establish as via a "Principle of Sufficient, and Thorough, Reason", the reason the rationality the natural the real, that it's not much like Born's "Restless Universe", which is more of a quantum theorist's lament the indeterminism, that may be a simple enough consequence of the deliberation and contemplation of a mathematical universe, which is a continuum mechanics again, and a heno-theory, with an ideal physics, and an analytical physics.