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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:30:10 +0000 Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc References: <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <mIdOO.204988$1m96.63811@fx15.iad> <vec4l3$3q4ms$5@dont-email.me> <criOO.380449$WOde.297877@fx09.iad> <20241014080601.00007478@gmail.com> <ln5gklF755tU4@mid.individual.net> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <veqne4$2n0ki$1@dont-email.me> <lnd6j5Fcf9jU3@mid.individual.net> <vetct1$388hc$9@dont-email.me> <1343403396.751142472.767579.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vf5bl1$th0d$1@dont-email.me> <cwvRO.88893$lm45.83715@fx05.iad> <vf60uf$th0d$6@dont-email.me> <vf6f8r$13ctc$4@dont-email.me> <lno5noF2de8U4@mid.individual.net> <1367214928.751312749.196320.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <lnr0n6Ffh95U6@mid.individual.net> <vfb4uj$237gt$2@dont-email.me> <lnt37lFp96sU4@mid.individual.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 02:30:10 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <lnt37lFp96sU4@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <J6ycnYhRL9DvdIT6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 56 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-ftkyAksYOMvHQJJhXu/x66LqHzeUrR44khUcRSHKa3tkBiwJRN1xuf5XzbYvtv2v1eAapG4BJsqCEJE!j1Gryc1VcPjLjTxccBZVtAe2U7hl+FI0wgsTao5lgdoePimzy3y6rfJH6Cnlx9/wmENZQC0con5o!8XuLEQg9Ub+kz8YH9YUy X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4478 On 10/23/24 4:05 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:32:35 -0000 (UTC), Alfred Falk wrote: > >> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in >> news:lnr0n6Ffh95U6@mid.individual.net: >> >>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:14:31 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >>> >>>> I used to argue against abortion, but with all the fuss I have come to >>>> realize that my libertarian instincts have risen to the top. Just have >>>> the government stay the h*ll out of it. >>> >>> Looking at the demographics I may favor abortion with a tubal ligation >>> thrown in for free. I also wonder if those seeking abortions should >>> have a sign around their necks saying 'I am too stupid to practice >>> birth control.' >> >> What demographics are you looking at? >> Short of tubal ligation and bilateral bolectomy, birth controls methods >> are not failure-proof. > > https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7436774/ Look, neither science or philosophy will provide The Answer about abortions - it's a "human issue", our very complex prob. At best we just wing it. *I* look at it kinda scientifically, neural dev, which makes me a "semesterist" on the issue - but I can't justify dictating to the world. Oh, and theoretical "what ifs" cannot dictate broader public policy - it's a bottomless pit there. SO ... I'll just apply my (small-L) libertarian instincts and vote (DID vote) for a govt hands-off policy. My HOPE is that 99+ percent will have enough of an ethical sense to do the right thing rather than insisting a 8.99 month baby be sucked out and thrown in the trash. A few will not, but there are always a few ... just gotta bear it for the greater good, for freedom. Ummm ... btw ... males should not get a big vote over this issue - it's unique to women in many dimensions. What's really MAGA is not carved in stone or on the face of the moon ... gotta THINK a bit about it, look at all the angles, and trend towards more Power To The People even if it hurts sometimes. The USA has been one of the few - now almost the ONLY - to even consider the rights/power of The People. I suggest we stick with that 'anomaly'. But this has little to do with Linux ... ok, maybe as a very peripheral sensibility ........