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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <JQP4zy9jD3AZXRuP-EZSv58-TFw@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: "Time" vs "physical time" References: <17e914f508c7a9cf$96455$546728$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <dwvnP-SoKZPwHpz6HgPhxwtG7e4@jntp> <v92ugo$4cam$1@dont-email.me> <XhF-ilyxW2WRkQK5uYxoOVgm1rU@jntp> <66b519fb$1$11685$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <DyJxLJAPFNRbLTelPGyf8gFw4_8@jntp> <66b52c61$0$18416$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: Qk5m3WUAE-fkn3dSn6B5iSxHLOs JNTP-ThreadID: 17e914f508c7a9cf$96455$546728$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=JQP4zy9jD3AZXRuP-EZSv58-TFw@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Thu, 08 Aug 24 20:43:26 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/127.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-08-08T20:43:26Z/8980187"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr> Bytes: 2377 Lines: 20 Le 08/08/2024 à 22:36, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a écrit : > > So say it again. Does Hachelian physics predict an observed speed of c > for relativistic neutrinos traveling the 732 km from CERN to Gran Sasso? > (with the clocks at CERN and Gran Sasso synchronised by GPS) > > Yes or no will do, > > Jan All good relativistic physics must predict an OBSERVABLE speed of the neutrino perfectly equal to c. If a physics does not do it, it is not good. On the other hand, all physicists must experimentally note that the neutrino has this speed, and that no other particle or law of nature can exceed it. The cause is the universal anisochrony against which we cannot, because we are in a concrete physics where we cannot do everything we want, resist or contradict. R.H.