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Subject: Re: Muon paradox
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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 15:56:39 -0700
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On 04/01/2025 12:24 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:41:39 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>> On 04/01/2025 11:26 AM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>> Den 01.04.2025 17:38, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>>>
>>>> I mean, "Yes, muons have mass, and their mass is approximately 207
>>>> times
>>>> that of an electron, with a value of about 105.7 MeV/c², according to
>>>> Britannica [10, 17] and other sources [1, 3, 6, 7]." -Google AI
>>>> So they must move faster in the atmosphere.
>>>
>>> So since the mass of a  muon is 207 times the mass of an electron
>>> it must fall 207 times faster than an electron? :-D
>>>
>>
>>
>> The inverse of frequency and wavelength with regards to waves or
>> the particles moving along as those are and calling that all
>> "electromagnetic radiation" is one of the great conflations
>> since the kinetic and nuclear and electromagnetic radiation
>> in both the long and short waves and the special optical light
>> and the three constants "c" about the light's and the electromagnetic
>> and electrostatics', and about waves whether it's velocity,
>> help illustrate that according to that kind of conflation,
>> muons don't so much belong to SR, nor make much sense from
>> the conflated and ignorant SR-ianism.
>>
>> Not so much that's their fault, as, doesn't belong to them.
> Then, if it is not SR time dilation due to high speeds, it could be GR
> time dilation due to gravity without gravity increasing the speed but
> just causing time dilation. The only problem is that time dilation is ad
> hoc fiction divorced from rational physics.

No it's not, space-contraction the FitzGeraldian is about the
most usual sort of thing when you consider anything starting
and stopping.

Also the usual gravitational equivalence principle, same
as with regards to gravity's force and acceleration otherwise
with usually the reaction mass and variously the solar sail
or laser or various ideas of Jefimenko, Alcubierre and such,
relativistic nanogyroscope array, anyways the usual gravitational
equivalence principle can be considered kind of a two-way
cancellation.

That sometimes wavelength really reflects the velocity
vis-a-vis the bounds, gets into various reasons why optical
light is special vis-a-vis plasmas, rays, and the radio.
("Wavelength-frequency" instead of, "electro-magnetic",
specifically, radiation, per se.)