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From: *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Censorship
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 00:32:06 +0000
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Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08-Nov-24 18:10, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 08-Nov-24 09:18, jillery wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 22:26:14 +0000, *Hemidactylus*
>>>> <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/24 3:37 AM, jillery wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:13:34 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> jillery wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you mean "blocked" as in nobody
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I mean "Blocked from posting." I mean "Not allowed to post."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This happened. Get over it. Move on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You first.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> responded to your
>>>>>>>>> disinformation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lol!  Idiots were saying things like "unprecedented," in describing
>>>>>>>> the supposed warming the media told them they were seeing. Which is
>>>>>>>> retarded, because SEVERE climate changes have occurred overnight.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Literally overnight. Super volcanic eruptions have darken the skies,
>>>>>>>> world wide, sparking a Volcanic Winter.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Google it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We're not even as warm as the last warm period! It's colder right
>>>>>>>> now, not warmer, during the Holocene than the last interglacial...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So there was a lot of disinformation being repeated, and I was
>>>>>>>> responding to it and I was blocked.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "not allowed to post" suggests some one, as opposed to some thing,
>>>>>>> prevented you from posting.  Too bad your own cited link shows nothing
>>>>>>> and nobody blocking you from T.O.:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> **************************
>>>>>>> From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: talk.origins
>>>>>>> Subject: jillery
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 17:11:30 -0400
>>>>>>> Organization: Eek
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <vf3rm2$isip$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is the thread:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/talk.origins/c/20oZDFrDdZk/m/AC5SFgjmjzkJ
>>>>>>> ***************************
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OTOH your cited zombie thread from 2011 does show posters responding
>>>>>>> to your disinformation.  Not sure if you will ever get tired of
>>>>>>> proving yourself wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I imagine DIG is behind this, long overdue.  I don't know why we're
>>>>>> seeing his posts at all.  Maybe some extra torture for a special case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> All I see from this piece of shit is abusive narcissism. Obviously can’t
>>>>> communicate with others in a humble and humane manner. Ignore it, though
>>>>> DIG should step in and end him.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As history has showed time and again, and current events continue to
>>>> prove, ignoring willful stupidity is a dangerous thing.  That's how
>>>> Trump won.  Even otherwise intelligent people believe his lies when
>>>> they are said often enough.
>>> 
>>> Yah. The alt-right became the mainstream right in part because they knew
>>> how to use social media to multiply their influence and give themselves
>>> a disproportionate appearance of numbers and power.
>>> 
>> JTEM uses tumblr (seriously?) and infests this group. Insignificant knuckle
>> dragger.
>>> 
>>> Most folks who WEREN'T internet nazis enabled them by failing to
>>> recognize their tactics and the intended impact. For example, "Just
>>> ignore the trolls" is effective when the trolls are only seeking
>>> attention, but it doesn't work when trolls are attempting to disrupt a
>>> space, shift the political center of that space, or normalize toxic
>>> ideas. "Ignore the trolls" is a big chunk of how open racism and
>>> eliminationist policies became acceptable again.
>>> 
>>> The internet creationism phenomenon was, in many ways, a prototype for
>>> the alt-right. In 1999 I wondered if maybe we all took internet nutbars
>>> too seriously; 25 years later, I know we didn't take them seriously enough.
>>> 
>> I seriously doubt the fate of the so-called free world has hinged on
>> whether we’ve engaged some local (or loco) bozo troll JTEM’s screeds on
>> some inconsequential newsgroup. Not really a case to be made under Kant’s
>> "act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will
>> that it should become a universal law."
>> 
>> Steve Bannon he’s not.
> 
> Oh yeah, he's insignificant. But it does make me think of the broader 
> problem of giving kooks, goons, fools, and tools too much floor space 
> online.
> 
That’s largely outside your control. How much time do you want to waste on
them or how much space inside your head will you allow them to squat in?
Those considerations are in your control.