Deutsch English Français Italiano |
<KNqcndx8Sacd3TH7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> View for Bookmarking (what is this?) Look up another Usenet article |
Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 02:12:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 21:12:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Everyone here seems to consistently lie about this --- Newsgroups: comp.theory References: <v8hf52$2jl7d$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> In-Reply-To: <v8hf52$2jl7d$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <KNqcndx8Sacd3TH7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 39 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-WPn8MfkUdJtZBebDz7fQjqkI4QkyG7gSqrMwvvkFxY0S2Vzwc+peyxvpknML39QdUnyNY/M0E3kVOza!9wpjep4KwIiqWmp4th2zCnKV4imuQ3GjY2F13Mem6ck/+fBY/cXSCQh6+HdFlVC1x1JPx5sCo+o= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2506 *This algorithm is used by all the simulating termination analyzers* <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH according to the x86 language semantics of DDD and HHH including when DDD emulates itself emulating DDD *UNTIL* HHH correctly determines that never aborting this emulation would cause DDD and HHH to endlessly repeat. When I say everyone I mean: Joes, Fred, Richard, Mike, Mikko, Andy, André... *Excluding only Ben Bacarisse* On 10/14/2022 7:44 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > I don't think that is the shell game. PO really /has/ > an H (it's trivial to do for this one case) that correctly > determines that P(P) *would* never stop running *unless* > aborted. .... > But H determines (correctly) that D would not halt if > it were not halted. That much is a truism. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer