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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fdn.fr!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <KePRvlqpXmDxKlB61iUYg5xK6qo@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: A Relativist Beginning a Reasonable Defense of Relativity References: <03116e1c09f85b3c8e75694bd3e2942a@www.novabbs.com> <998d52cb7818306151f58d993544178b@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: HVfJU9ea6ZNRy2131f0zVO21DO8 JNTP-ThreadID: 03116e1c09f85b3c8e75694bd3e2942a@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=KePRvlqpXmDxKlB61iUYg5xK6qo@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Wed, 30 Oct 24 12:21:25 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/130.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-10-30T12:21:25Z/9080486"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 3168 Lines: 42 Le 30/10/2024 à 09:32, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit : > 11. The relative speed of the observer must be added and subtracted from > the speed of light just as with the speed of sound if we are even to > qualify as rational at all. This would be true if the space measured in a frame of reference were isochronous, that is to say if the notion of "present time", of "simultaneity" were absolute there. I repeat, it WOULD BE true. But the universe is not made like that, and this is the very basis of the theory of relativity according to Dr. Hachel (the best relativistic theorist of the universe by default of the others): space is an anisochronous entity, the notion of absolute simultaneity is an abstract idea. From there will emerge one of the most fundamental equations of the two hundred equations given by Dr. Hachel on relativistic kinematics: <http://nemoweb.net/jntp?KePRvlqpXmDxKlB61iUYg5xK6qo@jntp/Data.Media:1> In short, we CANNOT add or subtract speeds or times as we do for apples in a housewife's basket. w=u+v, it doesn't work. It's even worse than that, and that's what leaves intelligent people like Paul B. Andersen in incomprehension: observable times are not even addable to each other in accelerated frames of reference! Only proper times are! The theory of relativity is of a fantastic coherence and a fantastic conceptual beauty. The mathematical calculations are even much simpler than they are said. But we must first have the first key, the fundamental key: the understanding of universal anisochrony and especially not to confuse it with the relativity of chronotropy which is a true but different secondary phenomenon. R.H. <https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=KePRvlqpXmDxKlB61iUYg5xK6qo@jntp>