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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Dawkins the 'Cultural Christian' Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:25:03 +0000 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 36 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <L-mcnaICFsFye737nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> References: <bjhf1j501cj6hfjbuv11jagif99957bp58@4ax.com> <86il0op1vt.fsf@example.com> <ss4g1jtu8l3loacjhig2bgnoqv3e0hredp@4ax.com> <uvacqu$25n02$1@dont-email.me> <tr8i1j5h69c8nsgf6v2c1sfci2c8gst0e2@4ax.com> <uvdoi9$2vane$1@dont-email.me> <vdiv1jpejum6sr9f7nm1o8lqlvht6km1cu@4ax.com> Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="28572"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: tin/1.9.2-20070201 ("Dalaruan") (UNIX) (Linux/4.18.0-477.27.1.el8_8.x86_64 (x86_64)) To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: <poster@giganews.com> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 0A71122976C; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:25:51 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6454229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:25:48 -0400 (EDT) id D61D85DC2E; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA65DC29 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:26:05 +0000 (UTC) by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D951603BC for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:24:42 +0000 (UTC) by serv-1.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651024404BB for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 04:25:04 -0500 (CDT) by serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 43I9P3X9048382; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 04:25:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:25:03 +0000 X-Original-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3991 Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 11:59:21 +0100, Ernest Major > <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>On 12/04/2024 13:06, Martin Harran wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 22:20:46 -0600, Pro Plyd >>> <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm reminded of a couple of Gandhi quotes >>>> >>>> "If Christians would really live according >>>> to the teachings of Christ, as found in the >>>> Bible, all of India would be Christian today." >>>> >>>> "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you >>>> Christians - you are not like him." >>>> >>>> "I like your Christ, I do not like your >>>> Christians. Your Christians are so >>>> unlike your Christ." >>> >>> Do you think Gandhi was applying that to *all* Christians or even >>> Christians in general and, if so do you agree with him? >> >>In the absence of any context to make me think otherwise I would take >>these quotes at face value as applying to the generality of Christians. > > That would disappoint me. I'm pretty sure that Gandhi would have > experienced firsthand the bigotry that Indians suffer due to > stereotyping, and I would like to think he wouldn't fall into the trap > of doing the same to other groups. As far as I'm aware, all of those quotes are apocryphal. At least, none of them has been reliably attributed to Gandhi. Andrew.