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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:45:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <vhigot$1uakf$1@dont-email.me> <6iKdnTQOKNh6AqD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <20241120081039.00006d2a@gmail.com> <vhlium$93kn$1@dont-email.me> <vhmprp$iaf1$1@dont-email.me> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:45:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vhmprp$iaf1$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <LASdnSkA69I3yKL6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 41 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-E2SD5mFTXRCl3aXATsBCK52Tmy2eZoMwAYJikTg6ldlXqttwbjSloOy+vC0uoJsily71fgE2AswnW4y!MDCrEI5yhNx3u+u69dvTVkJp5HVuL8RMVSVXwLSm/rr4WhS7jtlXxAhzSNrHYZxZWGd9MAmDAnFR!3GSaZYaH8WLcBUVDF+V7 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3218 On 11/21/24 3:09 AM, Pancho wrote: > On 11/20/24 21:05, Rich wrote: >> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 03:37:58 -0500 >>> "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmmmmmmm ... how many now have EVER programmed in BASIC ? Should do >>>> a survey ..... >>> >>> Lord, who hasn't!? Well, probably depends on how you choose to qualify >>> it - we still use VB6 in-house at $EMPLOYER, and FreeBASIC is my go-to >>> for hacking together quick utility applications in daily life, but I >>> haven't touched old-school line-number spaghetti-Gotoese BASIC since >>> childhood, and certainly never built any application of real complexity >>> with it. Bet more than a few people here have, though, especially if we >>> cross-posted over to a.f.computers... >> >> Given the typical age of most posters here, I'd say nearly every one of >> us has written /something/ in one or more of the 75 different variants >> of "BASIC" that have existed over time. >> > > For me: BBC Basic, VAX Basic, Visual Basic (&VBA). > > GOTO was deprecated before BBC Basic circa 1981. I never really saw it, > apart from reasonable GOTO error usages. Wasn't it more a sign of lack > of training than a linguistic feature? I found a good way to use GOTO however - in a handheld device where you had to enter several kinds of data about a location. The structure was a sort of "ladder" and pressing buttons would take you up and down the ladder via GOTOs. If you needed to edit yer last entry you just jumped one step up. The handheld only had a 4-line display alas, so you couldn't show even one entire record, only one prompt at a time. Now each entry was only a few lines of code - the input, an error-detector and the up/down GOTO thing. Easy to keep track of. GOTO made the pgm simpler and more compact.