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On Apr 28, 2024 at 3:19:10 AM PDT, "trotsky" <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

> On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>  On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>  On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>  On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>  On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>  On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>  On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>  On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" 
>>>>>>>>>>>  <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Baldwin Shot to the jaw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Crackhead Barney &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the RUST movie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Nice to know they've made that determination.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    "This material may not be published, broadcast, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  rewritten, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    redistributed."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  her but says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  The article says he hit her phone, not her.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  loaded.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, 
>>>>>>>>>>>  idiot scumbag you
>>>>>>>>>>>  have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a 
>>>>>>>>>>>  video that makes
>>>>>>>>>>>  me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an 
>>>>>>>>>>>  Alec Baldwin
>>>>>>>>>>>  video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, 
>>>>>>>>>>>  revulsion,
>>>>>>>>>>>  scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say 
>>>>>>>>>>>  anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>  would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get 
>>>>>>>>>>>  the benefit of the
>>>>>>>>>>>  doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to 
>>>>>>>>>>>  squander that
>>>>>>>>>>>  advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant 
>>>>>>>>>>>  as humanly
>>>>>>>>>>>  possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>  mean, really,
>>>>>>>>>>>  quite an achievement.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, 
>>>>>>>>>>  where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around 
>>>>>>>>>>  his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with 
>>>>>>>>>>  Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane 
>>>>>>>>>>  aspect to Moore's message.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to 
>>>>>>>>>  whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to 
>>>>>>>>>  pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as 
>>>>>>>>>  the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out 
>>>>>>>>>  of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two 
>>>>>>>>>  together and keep coming up with fifty million?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man 
>>>>>>>>  evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended 
>>>>>>>>  policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to 
>>>>>>>>  his persuasiveness.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an 
>>>>>>>  asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers 
>>>>>>>  weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of 
>>>>>>>  sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the 
>>>>>>>  favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full 
>>>>>>>  dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I 
>>>>>>>  remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character 
>>>>>>>  called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had 
>>>>>>>  merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented 
>>>>>>>  themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could 
>>>>>>>  profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you 
>>>>>>>  don't get this I feel sorry for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and 
>>>>>  torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean 
>>>>>  so stop fucking around.
>>>> 
>>>>  The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is your 
>>>  thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's 
>>>  treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.
>>  
>>  Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and 
>>  harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.
>  
> was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being 
> President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of 
> Washington.

LOL! The NRA is not and never has been bigger than the Left's Big Labor
unions, Hutt, you delusional fuckwit.