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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 02:00:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <_hycnQxlN5kAphr6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <G3RmP.87394$G93a.57113@fx05.iad> <slrnvpoljn.sh8.spamtrap42@one.localnet> <noWcnXgwHvPQ_gH6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <m03a3oF3p1pU4@mid.individual.net> <fGydnfItN7aI6gH6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vni8u0$3etjd$9@dont-email.me> <slrnvppvna.v00d.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <380b1c81-2b3c-6409-6bbd-edfba43be389@example.net> <WvidncuCn7yf6QD6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> <m05mlgFfqe7U1@mid.individual.net> <vnka3k$3ur1o$1@dont-email.me> <slrnvpsuhn.1b4k1.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <b1vnP.1215250$EYNf.334418@fx11.iad> <vnlv9l$8nnm$3@dont-email.me> <m07samFqberU1@mid.individual.net> <vnngtd$ksvm$4@dont-email.me> From: "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> Organization: WokieSux Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 21:00:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vnngtd$ksvm$4@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <LxKdnUSgPdvfvj36nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 41 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-u0pYk8OFJiOnhiSKPPtP6PGcBUZsWBK7Q4JTzlgK8SUozKqDQWlM0Wm6dsd6AWr+vRwUw+pbbkFeRlu!OmAT5ucQobKjqfbjDmDVMnanwgN+iNhBy5ANxIlbFJKP/ymnpuyiR8LCILvliD/oztAA9+oe95QW!P2rpjP/+JdqgqBJ/Gcmj X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 2/2/25 5:20 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 02/02/2025 00:24, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 20:13:41 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 01/02/2025 19:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-01, Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The French version of color TV encoding was called SECAM, often >>>>> translated as "Supreme Effort Contre les AMericains". >>>> >>>> Or "Something Essentially Contrary to the American Method". >>>> >>> LOL. The US system was truly dire for terrestrial broadcasting and only >>> just acceptable for cable. >>> >>> PAL was good enough for the rest of the technology >> >> Ah, but NTSC had a far reaching impact that had nothing to do with TVs. >> Because of the TV consumer market 3.57954 MHz crystals were dirt cheap >> and >> showed up everywhere. I believe some variant of the 8253 PIT still lives >> in PCs and runs at 1/3 or 1.19318 MHz. Roll the 16 bit counter over and >> you had the 55 msec tick. >> > Yup. In the UK/Europe the crystals for PAL were 4.something MHz > I use them in a digital design. > >> PAL crystals were used in some markets to be compatible with the TVs but >> never had the off label reach. > > I don't actually understand that statement I suspect he means that NTSC crystals were handy and thus used in MANY devices - driving down the price and enhancing availability. Kinda like the baud generator for modems, 32.768 Khz, that were also used in electronic clocks/watches ... they likewise became 'ubiquitous'.