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From: Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Favourite and Least Favourite Doctors, Companions, Anything!
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 10:02:08 -0700
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Verily, in article <105cqpt$1tn6c$1@dont-email.me>, did 
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
> 
> > They are two boys who live together in the same room, with twin beds.
> > The taller one goes to school and the shorter one does not.
> 
> I can't say I've seen Bert going to school, but then I definitely 
> haven't seen anywhere near every episode. I do know Bert and Ernie did 
> a parody of Harry Potter at one stage and went to Wizard School in the 
> claymation animated series "Bert and Ernie's Great Adventures".

Sounds like you watched a much later era than I did. Claymation didn't 
even exist in the 70s, when I watched Sesame Street, and Harry Potter 
didn't exist until I was well into adulthood. You can't evaluate the 
original era by watching episodes from decades later.

They were clearly children. The adult characters had last names and 
jobs, while children had first names and (in most cases) school. Bert 
used to come home from school and answer Ernie's questions about it, 
programming preschoolers to think that school would be fun and 
interesting. He also explained a lot of other things to Ernie. Nobody 
ever *said* things like "Here are the two brothers, Bert and Ernie, the 
siblings!" because that's not how normal people speak. We didn't need to 
be told they were brothers any more than we needed to be told that Mr. 
Hooper was the owner of the grocery store -- of course he was.

I once heard a younger person assert that they must be adults because he 
saw Ernie dusting, and I laughed out loud. The culture has changed so 
much that we no longer remember children used to do chores. Also, just 
to fend it off, children also used to go places without adults. We used 
our bikes and our feet. They're not "acting like adults" because they 
went places by themselves. They're acting like children of the 70s.

-- 
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