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From: Stan Brown <someone@example.com>
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Subject: Re: Transferring contents of a large folder (eg 3000 photos) from   Android to Windows 10
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:12:16 -0700
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:24:13 -0400, Paul wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 7/20/2025 7:18 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 14:45:49 -0400, Paul wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 7/20/2025 1:44 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 11:35:43 -0400, Paul wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 7/20/2025 9:16 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>>>> [quoted text muted]
> >>>>> with a USB-C connector probably are, but those with a USB-A connector
> >>>>> most likely need a OTG adapter. Look for a 'OTG' label on the packaging,
> >>>>> in the 'manual', etc..
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just about every method of transferring sucks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just for the record.
> >>>>
> >>>> Individuals doing this, need a good supply of tooth enamel
> >>>> to handle the failure cases. For example, some computer rooms,
> >>>> file sharing is hit and miss, and nothing but trouble.
> >>>
> >>> Paul, I'd be foolish to argue with you. I'll just say that LocalSend 
> >>> works or me, every time, to transfer to my desktop PC from my Android 
> >>> phone. This is the _only_ transfer method that has worked for me, 
> >>> reliably and promptly. (I can MMS-text a picture from my phone to my 
> >>> PC, but sometimes, for reasons I don't know, such a transfer takes 
> >>> over an hour or never competes at all.)
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I've just been lucky because I haven't tried to do something 
> >>> that LocalSend sucks at?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> https://github.com/localsend/protocol
> >>
> >>     "The goal is to have a simple REST protocol that does not rely on any external servers."  [Cloud? reference]
> >>
> >>     "The protocol only needs one party to set up an HTTP server."
> >>
> >>     "The default multicast group is 224.0.0.0/24 because
> >>      some Android devices reject any other multicast group.
> >>
> >>      Multicast (UDP)
> >>
> >>         Port: 53317
> >>         Address: 224.0.0.167
> >>
> >>      HTTP (TCP)
> >>
> >>         Port: 53317
> >>     "
> >>
> >>     "It is important to note that the unencrypted HTTP protocol
> >>      is used because browsers reject self-signed certificates."  [But it does have https:// options, in config]
> >>
> >>   Paul
> > 
> > Sorry, I don't understand how that quote relates to what I said. I 
> > definitely did not have to set up _any_ http servers. (If LocalSend 
> > works by setting one up for me, I don't see the objection.)
> > 
> 
> The complexity of the implementation, is roughly the same as FTP.
> 
> I don't understand the significance of the multicast in there.
> 
> Presumably you are running LocalSend on both ends, and one end
> is functioning as a server, the other end as a client.

Yes, I have it on my phone and my PC, and they negotiate with each 
other based on the direction of file transfer.

I don't understand multicast either. The complexity under the hood 
may be similar to ftp, but all of that is hidden. I just click the 
share icon on whatever I want to transfer from phone to PC, select 
localsend, and tell it to send to the PC.

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