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On 2/22/25 11:30 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 21:08:32 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Admittedly though, MOST people will make their first Linux install
>>     stick using Winders. Tragic. I got it started using RHEL and early
>>     SUSE that came on floppies bought from WalMart. Never needed Win
>>     after that. Had to deal with its BS at The Job for a long time alas -
>>     MUCH happier with my Linux servers and such but the staff was NOT
>>     gonna switch to Linux, most could barely work Win. Alas only ONE
>>     other Linux convertee in the place.
> 
> My first Linux was Slackware on floppies, about 40 for the full install
> iirc, downloaded and created on a Windows box, strictly DIY. I do have a
> SuSE box, 8.2?, with hard copy documentation and 4 DVDs. $79.99 at Best
> Buy. I think that came after the Red Hat release with the notorious gcc
> 2.96 and screwed up Python.

   I did buy Slack somewhere in there - but RH and SUSE
   were far easier to deal with.


> However, starting with MSDOS in the '80s most of what I've worked on has
> been Microsoft. The software in my current job was originally developed on
> AIX. We had some shared RS6000 servers but much of the development was
> done on Linux. Unfortunately we only had two sites that would run Linux
> after they migrated from IBM hardware to the much less expensive x86
> boxes, While the legacy programs run on Windows, they use the MKS
> NutCracker runtime, sort of a commercial Cygwin. The GUIs are Motif and
> run on the PTC X server from MKS.

   I 'started' on a PDP-11. Then all the brands of the
   newfangled 'home computers'. DOS came along later.
   Learned some OS-9 on a CoCo before I ever learned DOS.
   OS-9 used to brag that it was "like Unix" - only much
   smaller and faster  :-)

> As I've mentioned when I provision a new machine the workload is very
> similar, Windows or Linux. Vim, VS Code, Postgres, QGIS, Python,
> LibreOffice if I really have to read some docx proposal, node, and so
> forth. I even use the dotnet SDK on Linux.

   Linux and apps CAN do it all these days ... or at
   least the 99% that isn't strict M$ proprietary.

> I prefer Linux but I do not hate Windows and I can operate effectively on
> either. I'm not a gamer, so that doesn't matter, I've never used Office,
> and I'm not tied to a prehistoric version of Acdcess, like DFS. The only
> thing tied to Windows for the most part is Esri and I'm no longer actively
> developing with Esri.

   I did come to just hate Winders. It was always
   a big kludge and every version changed the
   kludges. Later on, they 'dumbed it down' and
   made it much harder to do any precision OS work.
   The sheer scale and depth of the permissions/
   ownership stuff now is breathtaking - and does
   NOT seem to keep Vlad and Xi out of things in
   the least - just makes it harder for YOU to see
   who's messing with yer stuff.