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Subject: Re: "Back to the Galilean Transformation and Newtonian Physics" -
 Moshe Eisenman c.2017
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On 12/23/2024 07:30 AM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 1:13:33 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>> On 12/22/2024 04:07 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 14:32:12 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Den 22.12.2024 04:56, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen:
>>>>> He shows that the Maxwell equations are invariant under the Galilean
>>>>> transformations making the LT invalid.
>>>>>
>>>>> free pdf =
>>>>> https://www.globalscientificjournal.com/researchpaper/Back-to-Galilean-
>>>>>
>>>>> Transformation-and-Newtonian-Physics-Refuting-the-Theory-of-Relativity.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Abstract
>>>>> This paper refutes the theory of relativity. Previous attempts by
>>>>> others
>>>>> were based on pointing at contradictions between corollaries of the
>>>>> theory of relativity and reality, often called paradoxes. The main
>>>>> point
>>>>> of this article is to indicate and correct the error that led
>>>>> scientists
>>>>> at the turn of the twentieth century to formulate the faulty theory of
>>>>> relativity."
>>>>
>>>> Another quote:
>>>>
>>>> A.5 Speed of Propagation of Electric and Magnetic Fields
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>> "In this section we will prove that the physical laws on which
>>>>   Maxwell's equations are based imply that electric and magnetic
>>>>   fields propagate at an infinite speed. In other words, if
>>>>   the speeds of propagation of electric and magnetic fields are
>>>>   finite – the following laws are inconsistent, i.e., they are
>>>>   self-contradictory."
>>>>
>>>> The "following laws" are Maxwell's equation.
>>>>
>>>> So Eisenmann claims to have proved that Maxwell's equations
>>>> predict that the speed of EM-radiation is infinite.
>>>>
>>>> Considering that Maxwell in 1865 showed that according his
>>>> equations the speed of EM-radiation is a constant, and all
>>>> physicists ever since know that Maxwell's equations
>>>> do indeed predict that the speed of EM-radiation in vacuum
>>>> is a constant, Eisenmann must be a brave person claiming
>>>> otherwise after 150 years!
>>>>
>>>> And a bit stupid?
>>> So your reading of his article is stupid and careless. He clearly states
>>> that these four laws as expressed in the equations require the
>>> assumption of infinite speed.
>>
>>
>> I think that what that means is that there
>> are frame-spaces and space-frames, in terms
>> of the kinetic, and, kinetic linear and rotational,
>> and, electrodynamic, and electrostatic and "vacuum",
>> with electromagnetism in the middle, that the
>> electrical field and the "matter field", as it were,
>> are always superimposed, that then an acceleration
>> of _matter_ or acceleration of _charge_, linearly,
>> contracts in the leading and relaxes in the following,
>> the frame-spaces and space-frames, that "infinite"
>> only means "infinity = -1" that only means when the
>> frame-spaces and space-frames make offsets, in
>> dynamics, it's just the opposite the classical,
>> that then in the cessation of dynamics, relaxes
>> back to the classical.
>>
>> Then, as a mathematical model, throwing infinity
>> in that way, is not a good idea, because it was
>> never really there, rather only reflects that the
>> space-frames and frame-spaces, all in one time now,
>> have their magmas, algebras are more generally magmas,
>> that it's only an "instantaneous infinity", as with
>> regards to other models of the same thing like
>> the enutrino physics, merely and simply flux
>> the super-classical the other way from flow
>> the classical.
>>
>> Kind of like "negative time", never really a thing,
>> only making for an unsatisfied formalism of the
>> variational principle, because it really is a sum-of-histories
>> sum-of-potentials theory where the real, variational
>> potentials _are_ the real fields, then with frame-spaces
>> and space-frames about matter and charge because
>> otherwise it's just another singularity.
>>
>> So, space-frames and frame-spaces help put together
>> the ideas of local frames and global space, because
>> matter and charge behave pretty much altogether oppositely,
>> yet that it's all one continuum, "Space-Time".
>>
>>
>> Otherwise this "adding more broken symmetries and singularities
>> to physics" is not doing physics, it's just adding yet
>> another plank to walk, when instead matter and charge
>> work perfectly just fine, in foundations, which is simple,
>> like simply disambiguating frame-spaces and space-frames.
> Tell me where your YouTube channel is again, and I'll check it out.

I looked through this paper, it's got the usual
idea that either E X B or D X H make for the
Faraday's and Ampere's and that either way those
being Maxwell's and which one's "real" and that
they sit contra-distinct each other yet both
represent central tendencies as it were, which
is funny when we all know electricity has the
"skin" not the "core" effect, then that the
author then makes a quite usual sort of partial
account, in partial derivatives, that neither
way is what results "complete", because it's
yet partial. Then invoking "Faraday's paradox"
doesn't much make the point except that that's
been Faraday's paradox since the 1850's or what,
you can find similar outlays in 100 year old
works at least.


Huygen's principle a.k.a. the L-principle or
that light's speed is constant, has that there
are at least two different partial accounts in
the theories of electricity, and, electromagnetism,
that are different things, and the various constants
that each have their own derivation and happen to
be close to light speed, and over/under, after
the measurements, so empirically, that's as well
a usual thing known since at least 100 years ago
or according to O.W. Richardson.

The author arrives at "are Maxwell's incomplete?"
and it's like "partial derivatives are partial".

It doesn't refute "Relativity", Einstein's Relativity
is just a degree-of-freedom.





You can find my podcasts at https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson ,
where the previous few episodes are about "natural infinities"
and "natural continuity" since mathematics _owes_ physics
more and better mathematics of infinity.