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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 18:38:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Replacement of Cardinality (ubiquitous ordinals) Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math References: <hsRF8g6ZiIZRPFaWbZaL2jR1IiU@jntp> <Yz6dnZrQj9Lf3zX7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <305754ad-bf86-44e7-95a5-f6059b8869da@att.net> <78CcnZMbf6XDzjT7nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <ef6e9a26-4899-41a5-ade7-5ab5a3d654d0@att.net> <SIacnYBQM_GoSjf7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <e712953f-f3a3-46bf-92e6-aea33f08cfd7@att.net> <g96dneARJ9dDfDb7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> <41684a87-685c-446c-87ce-ce2f5fdfbd4d@att.net> <h5KcnXrG7N1VsDH7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <v8id14$2pfk1$1@dont-email.me> <Ah2cnYogF_UTpDD7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <b6133d70-75cc-4ad0-8755-dfa6bf9241cd@att.net> <a4KcnZKcpJT1STP7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <75fe3de0-9922-4a6e-8a4a-1df25bbc5cbc@att.net> <NPKcnRCEu-sTZzP7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <fa7974b3-69a6-4535-b227-1e69eb37bd87@att.net> <dkOdnTOBra4uDDL7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <99c651b2-13f9-416e-bcf4-3f94f0768c7a@att.net> <LPGcnWd5wLFUIDL7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <0112d06f-136d-4623-8fc6-c2a7f4635f4c@att.net> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 11:38:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0112d06f-136d-4623-8fc6-c2a7f4635f4c@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <O6mcneOpH6wVVzL7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 67 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-aRVpChxdlr0SKRF1ZnuJT7U9k7bvQS4lNkm7ZLU0XysRd+Re+68BMUO4MwWyIwxE1EA1NEbO9tq3aNv!hV4+mdSUGwY2+t0hkAECB7cRZ4WXU363KPGwmaakwfbW6IgzR8az0Rx0bICVi3g8/NpNFeb8wiSM X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4417 On 08/04/2024 11:26 AM, Jim Burns wrote: > On 8/4/2024 1:44 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 08/04/2024 09:48 AM, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 8/4/2024 10:36 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> On 08/03/2024 10:25 PM, Jim Burns wrote: >>>>> On 8/3/2024 11:51 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>> On 08/03/2024 08:45 PM, Jim Burns wrote: > >>>>>>> What does 'comprehension' mean where there are no sets? >>>>>> >>>>>> What can you think it means. >>>>> >>>>> Your rhetoric suggests that >>>>> _you_ don't have something in mind for the term >>>>> _you_ introduced, >>>>> and you'd like someone else to provide something >>>>> to have in mind. Please prove me wrong. >>>>> What does 'comprehension' mean where there are no sets? >>>>> Specifically, >>>>> what does 'expansion of comprehension' mean >>>>> in the context of >>>>> "geometry, axiomatic geometry or Euclid's"? >>>> >>>> No, "what can you think", it means. >>>> Usually it just means "construction". >>> >>> Okay. Then you did answer my question. >>> "Comprehension", "construction" and "what can you think" >>> each seem to me very different from the other two. >>> I will let you carry on doing what it is you are doing. >> >> I don't need your help nor permission, thanks. > > I didn't offer help or permission. > > You are using English words in a manner which > I don't follow, and, > not to brag, but > I've been speaking English for a really, really long time. > Thus, I'm going to stop trying to follow your use. > My comment was intended to be read as <wave bye bye>. > >> And it's rather presumptious of you to not >> make what is equi-interpretable to be equi-interpretable. >> >> Jaded, say, biased, willfully ignorant, hypocritical, ..., >> "wrong". > > It is not wrong, when talking about certain things, > to not.be.talking about other things. > It is not wrong, it is not possible to do otherwise. > > There is no pair of integers in the ratio of √2 > > To say that > there are pairs of reals in the ratio of √2 > does not argue against the first claim, > because they are claims about different things. > > To pretend that it argues against the first claim > is wrong. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man > > Numbers