Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 05:13:33 +0000
Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc
References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks>
 <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me>
 <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
 <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad>
 <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad>
 <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me>
 <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net>
 <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vde4b8$268qv$22@dont-email.me>
 <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
 <wrapper-20241001111737@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
 <vpl5uk$hhk$3@reader1.panix.com> <vpl91g$25q46$1@dont-email.me>
 <1976765442.762208809.808387.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
 <20250225130315.00004e34@gmail.com>
From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:13:35 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/78.13.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20250225130315.00004e34@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <OmSdnbDqf-tgPyP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
Lines: 24
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
X-Trace: sv3-jNdYx8y4az0Vowv+LU7146OYI8DhzoyAZzNAqxNxRUV/Bvex5+rZ3sX9UVnMmIMU+czFoajbDLuq+Jm!FF909YNpEjyqsH0Xjc8UHIiEEdHKtTxniyS/eXWH8fLNTWKgimAhTTyvoljOHrrypN9D/xxqH3U1
X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com
X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40

On 2/25/25 4:03 PM, John Ames wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 13:43:06 -0700
> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Assembler and COBOL were needed but avoided
>>>
>>> Assembler can be fun.
>>
>> Especially PDP-10 assembler. Wonderful instruction set.
> 
> Need to play around with -10 assembler sometime.* The -11 architecture
> is also very nice (if more limited for Large Programs) - not hard to
> see why a number of microprocessor designers took inspiration from it.
> 
> * (Having started on micros of the early '90s, the idea of a computing
>    environment where assembly isn't just a systems-implementation thing
>    but a first-class applications language is quite intriguing to me...)


   Used to be a kinda main/common thing.

   Compilers were new and expensive. Apps were still
   kinda small. So, ASM was often The Way - and
   provided The Most fine control.