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On 06/22/2024 02:26 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
>
>> It will take more than vacuous denials if you want to be convincing.
>> Try this:
>> "FRAMING HYPOTHESES: Conceptions of gravity in the 18th and 19th
>> centuries"
>> Frans van Lunteren c.1991
>
> In the 18th century they already knew
> that gravity is caused
> by the accumulation of phlogiston.
>
> See: "Flogiston en andere nieuwlichterij" (Frans van Lunteren)
> <https://dwc.knaw.nl/column-flogiston-en-andere-nieuwlichterij-frans-van-lunteren/>
> for an up to date reference,
> (learn Dutch first to keep you busy)
>
> Jan
>

Dutch has been kind of passe since Stevin, though there's
something to be said for the Scheveningen conference for
relativity as much as the Copenhagen conference for QM,
and t'Hooft of course is pretty great, yet otherwise the
clogs and the dykes and the ice-skating and the wind-mills,
has that phlogiston is Greek and gets into the vis-viva
versus the vis-motrix.

At Scheveningen in the '80's for Relativity Theory was
a great conference, about the Bianchi and Regge and
Ricci and Backlund, tensor-wise, it's usually enough
modern today, with beyond the Hamiltonian working up
the Hamiltonian-Jacobian about the Lagrangians.

Anyways though the Lesage theory has that most people
who know have it as very sensible, yet as with regards
to the ideas of the total usual and the Mach-ian, then
about keeping inertia real.

So, "gravitons" reflect mostly the atom, or for "matter
is never destroyed", then for some its "Big Higgs", then
for others, "Little Higgs", as with regards to "ultramundane
corpuscles of a Lesage-ian shadow gravity, or fall gravity".

Energy as conserved is reasonable, though, it's always
of a form. None of matter, charge, light's speed,
proton/electron neutron lifetime, is "first fundamental",
as with regards to that each are, overall.

"Energy: four quantities."


Unifying field theory, the fields of the forces, is for
a sum-of-histories sum-of-potentials, putting the nuclear
force together with fall gravity.