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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 05:46:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Distros specifically designed for children Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <100lcd7$30vat$1@dont-email.me> <m96s6gFrc9cU1@mid.individual.net> <100le5o$318dd$1@dont-email.me> <100ljn1$30vat$2@dont-email.me> <slrn1032jne.29j.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <6831b9a7$0$8595$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <slrn1035np2.84f.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <6832fab9$0$11442$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <100uuhm$1avfn$5@dont-email.me> <10102i5$1j2sk$1@dont-email.me> <m9i82dFmtndU5@mid.individual.net> <1011jto$1vpkk$5@dont-email.me> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 01:46:25 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1011jto$1vpkk$5@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <P-icncekKo4qzKj1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 74 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-p8p+bLs2PhUbBFaoLnrRocRIUguOs4eKWVwwn5ubenhjeWDpdLB+piH+VXG6AxTpZSxhNe9b3vbSctr!XcI29uUcbqJOw7LKgVudxvyFOKPYMBaR/TQVQQrYgcq/i/7uQUU4OcFCKjuDIMHH07aR8Md8GKxs X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 5/26/25 7:39 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 26/05/2025 05:13, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:37:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Wait ... that means they are, or were, interested in “discovering >>> Windows” >>> back in the XP days, otherwise they would never have discovered how it >>> worked ... >> >> In my case, it was the 3.1 days. I migrated from CP/M to MSDOS which >> wasn't a huge move. A friend saw the future in Windows and jumped on the >> bandwagon with Windows 1.0. As a user it sucked; as a developer the >> documentation sucked even more. After listening to him whine (whinge) I >> wasn't eager to move to Windows. >> > The company didn't really move till windows 3.1 as we could do all we > wanted in DOS. And SCO Unix. My corp didn't want to pay for SCO - it WAS kinda high, and sucked a lot of disk/CPU compared to DOS/Winders. > Then everybody wanted to play with windows, so we let them and > productivity dropped and support costs went up. Sigh. Yep ! :-) > Later it was a mixture of SUN clones running SUNOS and system V. and > Windows up to around 95. > > Finally some linux added to the mix. Then I retired. ran 95 for a while > then XP, but then linux windowing systems got stable enough and good > enough to use them as a desktop. > > Ran XP in parallel until Vbox showed up. Then one less machine. > > Linux is not simply the most stable and versatile operating system I > have ever used, and more than good enough. > > I stopped looking at other distros. "Linux" is kind of fractured now ... gone off in SO many directions. Linus may dictate the kernel - how OLD is Linus now ? - but the whole look/feel varies WIDELY by distro. For CORPORATE servers and such, I'd now trend towards one of the BSDs. NOT the best for 'desktop' though, as I recently experienced. MOST biz will just go Winders. It's COMMON, many entities support it, the online Office/storage is almost The Standard (despite flaws few bother to notice). The COSTS ... well ... just write it into the budget. Besides, you WANT to be "normal", Winders Stuff, that way you can't be "criticized". Experienced THAT personally - and quickly retired. It's a big shift from 30 years ago. The pointy-haired bosses now make the tech decisions instead of the experienced tekkies. Horrible. LOCAL servers and backups - RIDICULOUS ! M$ will handle it ALL, and YOU can't be blamed when it all goes to hell. Oh well, Vlad and Xi LOVE that everyone depends on Winders stuff now - just ONE easy blow and it ALL goes down forever ........ Still hoping for a neo-VMS ... a system well ahead of its time. Alas $$$ seems to be in the way, we'll never see it. Note both Linux (RHEL-derived) and Plan-9 are ported to the IBM Big Black Mainframe Boxes now.