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From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr>
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Le 16/07/2024 à 12:57, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
> 
> So Richard Hachel has said that when the proton is moving
> around the 27 km circuit, and is measured to pass by the same
> point every ≈ 90 μs, then the proton has really made 6933
> turns around the circuit during the ≈ 90 μs, which means that
> the proton passes the point every ≈ 12.8 ns, and the speed of
> the proton is 6927⋅c and not slightly less than c.I like your sense of humor. 
> It is a bit inappropriate in the sense that you do not understand what you are 
> reading (I never said that we could measure in the laboratory protons moving at 
> 6927c in observable speed although it is obvious that physicists perform this feat 
> every day, at real speed, but without understanding the mechanism).
I refer you to Blaise Pascal's advice: "When you don't understand 
something, and a man's comments seem extravagant to you, and you don't 
know if he is particularly stupid or particularly brilliant, go look 
elsewhere .If he is particularly stupid in other matters, or in his usual 
behavior, it is very likely that he is stupid in what he says and in what 
we read. On the other hand, if he shows. that elsewhere he largely masters 
his subject, we must first think that what we do not understand perhaps 
comes from us, and not from him.
But I like your sense of humor anyway.
N.B. The color of the invisible proton, I haven't photographed it yet, but 
I remain hopeful.

R.H.