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Path: ...!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 04:08:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift-Bias-Removal Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <8aicnSk_nvT6ifL6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <V8QgsnYnlUr3GUM3cFZTikjMGNw@jntp> <n9CdnRw2SscotPL6nZ2dnZfqnPjGyJ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:08:54 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <n9CdnRw2SscotPL6nZ2dnZfqnPjGyJ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <Q6GdnVTEWZ5W5PL6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 123 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-AG4otXkVbQjhXU2SHTxskjSCKtzlwEyb95Oo3Yi+8Cl7u/HtqzvqMjYQ9MnAml0JT4+qFeeM7G+I5br!wvxTwozyLmPfpPkCU7n8h0WmbucBfYSg9i5afy6JSuNw8yZUEH7aciJPNWmAfPlVFk0MnWGlp6s= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 6434 On 12/27/2024 02:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 12/27/2024 01:15 PM, Python wrote: >> Le 27/12/2024 à 21:56, Ross Finlayson a écrit : >>> Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift Bias Removal >>> >>> If you've been following along, for about a hundred and >>> more years since Hubble there was observed a sort of >>> red-shift bias, meaning distant galaxies appear to >>> demonstrate a red-shift which according to Doppler >>> means they recede, and that given the theory of >>> stellar formation and pulsation, and the theory of >>> hydrogen lines and standard candles, then it was >>> really well figured out and quite tuned the theory, >>> to arrive at estimates like the age of the universe, >>> from taking averages and extrapolating backwards, >>> and the Expansionary making for the Inflationary >>> and making a very sensible theory called Big Bang. >>> >>> So, over time, then science found that there wasn't >>> enough energy to explain all the receding. Much like >>> science couldn't explain why galaxies like free-rotating >>> platters weren't flying apart and thus had to add >>> Dark Matter or not luminous matter to explain how >>> gravity, which also isn't really a theory in those days, >>> then for energy there's Dark Energy, enough to >>> explain why things appear to be falling apart in >>> the large, while holding together in the close. >>> >>> Over time, then these non-scientific non-explanations, >>> mute matter say or false energy, well they started to >>> grow more and more, until at some point it was >>> reached "out non-scientific non-explanations now >>> dominate the theory so obviously our theory is wrong". >>> >>> That is to say, ever since Dark Matter and Dark Energy >>> were in the theory, it's _not_ the theory, of that without. >>> >>> Now, when talking about Dark Matter and Dark Energy, >>> it's not to be read as about ethnicity, while of course >>> human beings have ethnicities and that, just saying, >>> when we say Dark Matter and Dark Energy, it's exactly >>> the non-luminous, so un-detectable, matter, and, >>> energy with same idea, non-observable non-scientific. >>> So, that's just saying that the reasons why theory >>> want to explain Dark Matter and Dark Energy as >>> having reasons why their role in the theory is >>> according to something else in the theory, >>> is like so. >>> >>> >>> So, red-shift bias is the idea "well what if all along >>> the measurements get a red-shift _bias_ and we >>> thought it was plain straight Doppler yet really >>> it's something else", about Dark Energy. (Then, >>> for Dark Matter it's actually a matter of mechanics, >>> and so free rotating frames explain via a true >>> centrifugal why it's to be explained what makes >>> the role of Dark Matter in theories that are >>> otherwise quite thoroughly broken because >>> they don't have any way to say what it is.) So, >>> the Dark Energy, then, if red-shift bias is explainable >>> because it's more about "Fresnel and large lensing" >>> and not about ideas like "tired light" or "lumpy space-time", >>> or these other strange and sometimes bizaare >>> non-scientific non-explanations, where red-shift >>> bias is explainable, and removable, then: the >>> premier theories of the day can be much better. >>> >>> >>> So, since 2MASS, and, the discovery of LaniaKea, >>> and, particularly since JWST, and soon with the >>> Nancy Roman if that makes it, all these latest >>> additions to the sky survey, also have in other >>> spectra, _much, much, much_ less red-shift bias, >>> what was 99/1 is now 51/49. Then this makes all >>> the Lambda CDM and particular Expansion and >>> Inflation quite lose most their justification, except >>> as a tuning problem according to measurements >>> and extrapolations tuning and fitting the data >>> an exercise in scientific modeling that the new >>> data has paint-canned and round-filed. >>> >>> >>> Well, have a great day, just letting you know that >>> fall-gravity explain Dark Matter and red-shift-bias-removal >>> explains Dark Energy: away. >>> >>> >>> Of course, both Big Bang and Steady State hypotheses >>> either can be made fit the data as neither are falsifiable. >>> >>> >>> Mathematics _owes_ physics more and better >>> mathematics of infinity, and continuity. >> >> Not enough giraffes, certainly. >> >> Far too much gibberish, definitely. >> >> Seriously Ross, what's your point? A joke? >> > > It's "Foundations", mon ami, > Foundations of Mathematics, > Foundations of Physics, > a good theory at all, > that's the goal of the wonder of reason. > > About "Foundations": "Logos 2000: natural infinities", that mathematics _owes_ physics more and better mathematics of continuity and infinity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-HbQZDkU0&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F4_E-POURNmVLwp-dyzjYr-&index=29 In this video is described at least three "natural infinities". Also happens to include and keep "axiomatic set theory". Usually called "the candidate for Foundations of Mathematics".