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Subject: Re: Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift-Bias-Removal
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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:08:54 -0800
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On 12/27/2024 02:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 12/27/2024 01:15 PM, Python wrote:
>> Le 27/12/2024 à 21:56, Ross Finlayson a écrit :
>>> Expansion and Inflation and Dark Energy and Redshift Bias Removal
>>>
>>> If you've been following along, for about a hundred and
>>> more years since Hubble there was observed a sort of
>>> red-shift bias, meaning distant galaxies appear to
>>> demonstrate a red-shift which according to Doppler
>>> means they recede, and that given the theory of
>>> stellar formation and pulsation, and the theory of
>>> hydrogen lines and standard candles, then it was
>>> really well figured out and quite tuned the theory,
>>> to arrive at estimates like the age of the universe,
>>> from taking averages and extrapolating backwards,
>>> and the Expansionary making for the Inflationary
>>> and making a very sensible theory called Big Bang.
>>>
>>> So, over time, then science found that there wasn't
>>> enough energy to explain all the receding. Much like
>>> science couldn't explain why galaxies like free-rotating
>>> platters weren't flying apart and thus had to add
>>> Dark Matter or not luminous matter to explain how
>>> gravity, which also isn't really a theory in those days,
>>> then for energy there's Dark Energy, enough to
>>> explain why things appear to be falling apart in
>>> the large, while holding together in the close.
>>>
>>> Over time, then these non-scientific non-explanations,
>>> mute matter say or false energy, well they started to
>>> grow more and more, until at some point it was
>>> reached "out non-scientific non-explanations now
>>> dominate the theory so obviously our theory is wrong".
>>>
>>> That is to say, ever since Dark Matter and Dark Energy
>>> were in the theory, it's _not_ the theory, of that without.
>>>
>>> Now, when talking about Dark Matter and Dark Energy,
>>> it's not to be read as about ethnicity, while of course
>>> human beings have ethnicities and that, just saying,
>>> when we say Dark Matter and Dark Energy, it's exactly
>>> the non-luminous, so un-detectable, matter, and,
>>> energy with same idea, non-observable non-scientific.
>>> So, that's just saying that the reasons why theory
>>> want to explain Dark Matter and Dark Energy as
>>> having reasons why their role in the theory is
>>> according to something else in the theory,
>>> is like so.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, red-shift bias is the idea "well what if all along
>>> the measurements get a red-shift _bias_ and we
>>> thought it was plain straight Doppler yet really
>>> it's something else", about Dark Energy. (Then,
>>> for Dark Matter it's actually a matter of mechanics,
>>> and so free rotating frames explain via a true
>>> centrifugal why it's to be explained what makes
>>> the role of Dark Matter in theories that are
>>> otherwise quite thoroughly broken because
>>> they don't have any way to say what it is.) So,
>>> the Dark Energy, then, if red-shift bias is explainable
>>> because it's more about "Fresnel and large lensing"
>>> and not about ideas like "tired light" or "lumpy space-time",
>>> or these other strange and sometimes bizaare
>>> non-scientific non-explanations, where red-shift
>>> bias is explainable, and removable, then: the
>>> premier theories of the day can be much better.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, since 2MASS, and, the discovery of LaniaKea,
>>> and, particularly since JWST, and soon with the
>>> Nancy Roman if that makes it, all these latest
>>> additions to the sky survey, also have in other
>>> spectra, _much, much, much_ less red-shift bias,
>>> what was 99/1 is now 51/49. Then this makes all
>>> the Lambda CDM and particular Expansion and
>>> Inflation quite lose most their justification, except
>>> as a tuning problem according to measurements
>>> and extrapolations tuning and fitting the data
>>> an exercise in scientific modeling that the new
>>> data has paint-canned and round-filed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, have a great day, just letting you know that
>>> fall-gravity explain Dark Matter and red-shift-bias-removal
>>> explains Dark Energy: away.
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, both Big Bang and Steady State hypotheses
>>> either can be made fit the data as neither are falsifiable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mathematics _owes_ physics more and better
>>> mathematics of infinity, and continuity.
>>
>> Not enough giraffes, certainly.
>>
>> Far too much gibberish, definitely.
>>
>> Seriously Ross, what's your point? A joke?
>>
>
> It's "Foundations", mon ami,
> Foundations of Mathematics,
> Foundations of Physics,
> a good theory at all,
> that's the goal of the wonder of reason.
>
>

About "Foundations": "Logos 2000: natural infinities",
that mathematics _owes_ physics more and better
mathematics of continuity and infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r-HbQZDkU0&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F4_E-POURNmVLwp-dyzjYr-&index=29

In this video is described at least three "natural infinities".

Also happens to include and keep "axiomatic set theory".

Usually called "the candidate for Foundations of Mathematics".