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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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On Mar 30, 2024 at 7:35:37 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:

> On 3/30/2024 4:14 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  In article <uu9d90$1363u$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>  
>>>  Your side is banning words, and banning books, and banning curriculum
>>>  there, Sparky.
>>  
>>  Oh, don't worry. You hypocritical lefties will ban books in a heartbeat
>>  if they don't meet your ideological rigor:
>>  
>>>  An online bookstore that advertised itself as being committed to sharing
>>>  ideas, even those which are deemed controversial, has removed titles from
>>>  conservative authors amid backlash.
>>> 
>>>  Television host and activist RuPaul is a co-founder of the "all-inclusive"
>>>  online bookstore Allstora, according to National Review. He started the
>>>  online store with LGBTQ advocate and author Eric Cervini and drag performer
>>>  Adam Powell.
>>> 
>>>  The site advertised that they would carry titles from authors of all points
>>>  of view, and books for sale on the site initially ranged from Adolf Hitler's
>>>  "Mein Kampf" to the graphic, controversial coming-of-age book "Gender
>>> Queer".
>>> 
>>>  "We're a marketplace for all books and all stories, with a focus on
>>> elevating
>>>  marginalized voices," the site originally touted, according to NR. "You may
>>>  find books you disagree with," a pop-up ad warned, while the FAQ page said,
>>>  "Allstora has made the decision to carry all books" and "censorship of any
>>>  book, perspective, or story is incompatible with the survival of democracy."
>>> 
>>>  "Banning books is never the answer," the site's messaging, which has since
>>>  been deleted, said, according to The Mary Sue. "We cannot fight the
>>>  ideologies of hate if we lack the ability to study, understand, and react to
>>>  them. We do that by reading books."
>>> 
>>>  However, left-wing activists were outraged that Allstora offered titles by
>>>  Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Matt Walsh, Riley Gaines, and Libs of TikTok
>>> founder
>>>  Chaya Raichik, among others. At first, the website's founders attempted to
>>>  diffuse tension by promising to create "a community-led flagging system for
>>>  titles that are contrary to our core values and donating all proceeds from
>>>  these titles to fight book bans," National Review noted.
>>> 
>>>  But that wasn't enough. After three days of critics railing against Allstora
>>>  for selling "homophobic", "transphobic", "anti-woke", and "Nazi" books, the
>>>  founders relented and removed all free speech messaging from the page. Many
>>>  works by conservative authors were removed from the page, while some other
>>>  titles remained available.
>>> 
>>>  The drama comes on the heels of RuPaul announcing a "Rainbow Book Bus" that
>>>  seeks to distribute "diverse books to communities facing book bans and
>>>  censorship, especially in LGBTQ+ communities". The bus will embark on a
>>> cross
>>>  country tour later this year, the DRAG RACE host told People during an
>>>  interview this month.
>>  
>>  And you've got a lotta balls condemning Republicans for 'banning words'.
>>  You guys are the ultimate language police.
>>  
>>  First it was 'illegal alien' that was banned in favor of 'undocumented
>>  immigrant', then that was too "othering", so we couldn't say that any
>>  more either. Now it's 'pre-citizen', but I'm sure even that will be
>>  decried as 'stigmatizing' at some point. Hell, the latino grievance
>>  groups have even declared that calling someone a 'Mexican' is racist,
>>  even if they are a Mexican citizen from Mexico.
>>  
>>  Then there's 'gangs' and 'thug'. Not allowed to say them anymore because
>>  they 'stigmatize' blacks and latinos. Which forces good little progs to
>>  beclown themselves like Newsom did during a press conference about gang
>>  violence where he refused to say the word 'gang' and instead was
>>  thoroughly mocked for bowing to the prog mob and calling them 'groups of
>>  folks'.
>>  
>>  And there's all the words that are no longer allowed because the troons
>>  get worked up over them, like "mother". The leftist government currently
>>  in power has banned that horrible term in favor of "birthing person".
>>  The troons actually want Mother's Day to be renamed Birthing Person Day.
>>  
>>  But yeah, you go on and keep whining about Republicans banning words.
> 
> The tactic you're describing was invented by this guy:
> 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz
> 
> ...a *Conservative* who "advocated use of vocabulary crafted to produce 
> a desired effect; including use of the term 'death tax' instead of 
> 'estate tax', and 'climate change' instead of 'global warming'."

And? Does that somehow mean leftists aren't the maestros of language
policing?

It sure wasn't conservatives at Stanford University that issued a 30-page
dictionary of all the banned words on campus.