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Le 25/01/2025 à 22:39, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit 
:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:23:51 +0000, Python wrote:
> 
>> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:14, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
>> :
>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 2:33:23 +0000, Python wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 24/01/2025 à 23:11, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
>>>> :
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles.
>>>>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain
>>>>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The
>>>>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a
>>>>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing
>>>>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as
>>>>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
>>>>>>>>>> thoughtlessly
>>>>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic,
>>>>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks
>>>>>>>>> monopoly'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who
>>>>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept
>>>>>>>> curved space for a second.
>>>>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood
>>>>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
>>>>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
>>>>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel
>>>>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the
>>>>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
>>>>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as
>>>>>>> a foolish fellow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will
>>>>>> never intersect.
>>>>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
>>>>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a
>>>>> surface and its not curved.
>>>>
>>>> Your "petitio principii" is that a 3D space, or a 4D space-time can be
>>>> "curved" the same way a surface can be. Why that?
>>> What are you trying to ask or say? How can space be curved? It can't be
>>> curved at all. That is the reification fallacy.
>>
>> Because you say so? LOL.
> That is not what I said. Why is it not a reification fallacy? Because
> you say so? It is, by definition, a reification fallacy because it
> confuses the abstract with the physical. What are you saying is curved?
> Vacuum? A field?

How could you know? You are uneducated in math, and in physics.