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Path: ...!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.brightview.co.uk!news.brightview.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 16:02:57 +0000 Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Newsgroups: comp.theory References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vsng73$27sdj$1@dont-email.me> <gGKdnZiYPJVC03L6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vsnmqu$2i4qp$2@dont-email.me> From: Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:02:57 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vsnmqu$2i4qp$2@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <QcicnRhvVNEsn236nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Lines: 34 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-SoXHe9ECKGzSwUsgd6ouEECKWH7B53Xu/tIsHQ3TgrtLQUgCHsZtzryGhlBWTptPGH+DoZSu4T5ZLT1!FXz87FDiWbrL7xKCvGGulgAage/PBFTcqEGaAcE532muD0e0+AdSnnlskI6gHhCJqj/gnfmfpPDc!V9OFWGgW0qTp70+pCewslf8Ya2E= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2645 On 04/04/2025 05:22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:15:39 +0100, Mike Terry wrote: > >> On 04/04/2025 03:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 02:41:09 +0100, Mike Terry wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/04/2025 23:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Cantor diagonal construction is an algorithm for computing an >>>>> incomputable number. >>>> >>>> It is not an algorithm for computing something. Algorithms are >>>> instructions that operate on finite inputs and must terminate with an >>>> answer at some point for every input. >>> >>> The definition of a “computable number” is that for any integer N, >>> there is an algorithm that will compute digit N of the number in a >>> finite sequence of steps. >>> >>> Does the Cantor diagonal construction fit this definition? Yes it does. >>> >> No it doesn't, because for a computable number the algorithm cannot have >> an infinite amount of input data. > > It doesn’t need to. To compute the Nth digit of the diagonal, it only > needs N * (N + 1) / 2 digits of the numbers in the first N entries of the > table. > Yes it does. The missing number has infinitely many digits, and your attempt to "compute" them requires an infinite amount of input data. That is not a recipe for a computable number! Mike.