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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 01:09:17 +0000 Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <o4ucnYo2YLqmZ876nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <c951feca-ea8c-bcd9-4e77-22354a0e711e@example.net> <lsm1etFcs5bU6@mid.individual.net> <5f26b99d-cefb-9b85-1296-0be9aff25a7d@example.net> <lsmmfgFgfrkU4@mid.individual.net> <fcd4b247-5a25-57ec-f8dc-274e7170d405@example.net> <lsopudFqfauU7@mid.individual.net> <c66a5355-f58e-18d3-0dd6-ced4fa75ef50@example.net> <vk9a68$lsr4$1@dont-email.me> <50cec39d-ebcd-d9fd-d288-64af77f90bc2@example.net> <lsrqeaFb2o3U1@mid.individual.net> <04b08dd5-cce3-58d0-39c4-a3fdc28defb2@example.net> <lstucaFlilgU1@mid.individual.net> <9f9f1b3b-7142-749e-4761-aed0b29fa5bb@example.net> <lsugolFolkuU1@mid.individual.net> <de6d7dde-5e42-f253-3974-b1842706469a@example.net> <lt0gl8F36j3U12@mid.individual.net> <f88224bd-4e81-45f8-6e0e-70e4583cc228@example.net> <lt14klF6oupU2@mid.individual.net> <f4e4a72a-85e8-4e8a-14fd-bba3eaf5cf4c@example.net> <lt361rFglkbU3@mid.individual.net> <c03d0d8c-097f-1373-cde9-9421a58ad570@example.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 20:08:35 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <c03d0d8c-097f-1373-cde9-9421a58ad570@example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <Qj-dncWMZNAgMfH6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 51 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-3YHYuWKQ0s4d0jYiVt3U9eI7NFIWPmViKPlhtom9oqC2+pjXb2nwT6I2JnCBC94wvlb8qMGylZhugWv!Z27unjSrBoOK2bfXjvWuVULyxvx19yYKoboto98z6uEaYzrYd2nIRAMEBlTl2Q/YZ41LiS1Qvmnk!kGZmT5F2PpJi/61TMG86 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4195 On 12/25/24 4:55 PM, D wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 12:27:27 +0100, D wrote: >> >>> As a libertarian, my favourite argument against libertarianism, is that >>> it is very unstable, and very likely to be attacked from without, or >>> over time, to be converted into kingdoms with serfs. >> >> Libertarians have a lot of faith in mankind that I don't share. Then >> there >> is the problem that many of the libertarians I've know IRL tend to be >> nutters. > > This is interesting! I am very much in favour of libertarian, and by > extension _decentralization_ because of a lack of faith in mankind! Decentralization CAN be useful, but without some kind of 'center' it seems to go very bad. Then we're back to the old city-state wars again ... > I often criticize socialists for their unreasonable trust in some 100% > fair human being, not being corrupted and turning their socialist utopia > into an authoritarian nightmare. 'Socialism' requires a lot of denial ... > Please tell me more about libertarians faith in man kind since that is > so opposite my own position, yet, I do call myself a libertarian. > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Jones_(Libertarian_politician) >> >> At least he stood out and became a little less blueish over the years. >> The >> Libertarian Party typically gets 3% of the vote but outdid itself this >> year with 0.42% after nominating a pro-choice gay. The LP in this state >> ignored him completely. > > I think as a libertarian, I cannot participate in political parties. > Nietzsche warned against parties and saw them as a threat against > democracy. I agree with him completely. I think libertarianism is not > compatible with parties and trying to change the system from within. > That will just lead to them becoming corrupted over time and diluted to > some other form of ism. 'Parties' suck - but I think *that* kind of civil war still beats the real kind.