Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<Qo6dnQ4X9ul5Qq_6nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:56:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Time Dilation Experiments
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
References: <bc801848-2aaa-44b7-a73c-eaf6381b80een@googlegroups.com>
 <7ed256df-1eeb-4d07-bbda-81d04d1e8db2n@googlegroups.com>
 <45f97ff4-745b-45d9-aa84-de48c358a15an@googlegroups.com>
 <2fbe86ad-cd42-427e-bd2d-582455a5b044n@googlegroups.com>
 <42926c94-d933-465b-8dae-3c8f2a8f64aen@googlegroups.com>
 <9c7fc4bf-b323-4896-8c9a-67d8184af533n@googlegroups.com>
 <ba66005b-6443-47cf-ae16-1831540f1380n@googlegroups.com>
 <D5ydnXSVfZwtKV7_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com>
 <c87937c6-0c5e-4bac-9194-713fd64ed57fn@googlegroups.com>
 <d2215322-bde1-4ef1-9fd4-519ee9106871n@googlegroups.com>
 <f934a9ce-2a2e-42a3-8550-43a137620604n@googlegroups.com>
From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:56:05 -0800
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/38.6.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <f934a9ce-2a2e-42a3-8550-43a137620604n@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <Qo6dnQ4X9ul5Qq_6nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com>
Lines: 80
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
X-Trace: sv3-0fVctz4vKrVGI5/rEKJwVPsr7LFwFr3CNtmGJNe/0AOSeWNBl5cPEPZ3/jMubbpZ85aBxzdbIzRI1tN!PRxnGcfvNf17VsOQHCV4jax2XB4zAlgrpTPkG2+vt8mwcibcDkDsg8XYgZpnh4dSraHyCJr8mb6v
X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com
X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
Bytes: 5807

On 07/05/2022 09:11 AM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:13:54 AM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:48:27 AM UTC-7, det...@outlook.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/22 9:09 AM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>>>> [... much nonsense and many false claims]
>>>>> Police radar guns measure the difference between c and c+v countless times per day.
>>>> NONSENSE!
>>>>
>>>> Police radar guns measure the frequency difference between their emitted
>>>> wave and the reflected wave from the desired target. This is comparing
>>>> FREQUENCIES, not speeds.
>>> So, you believe the police give tickets for traveling at illegal FREQUENCIES??
>>> Can't you understand that frequencies can be converted to speeds???
>>>
>>> Can't you understand that the difference in frequencies RESULTS from
>>> the PHOTON traveling at c hitting a target at c+v, which means that the PHOTON
>>> hits with the c+v ENERGY, not the c ENERGY? And the target sends back a
>>> PHOTON with the c+v ENERGY.
>>>
>>> The Energy of a photon is determined by its ELECTRIC and MAGNETIC FIELD
>>> OSCILLATION FREQUENCIES. If the photon from a radar gun has oscillation
>>> frequencies of 35,000,000,000 times per second, and if that photon hits an
>>> oncoming target traveling at 70 mph, the photon hits AS IF it had oscillation
>>> frequencies of 35,000,007,292 times per second. The target then sends back
>>> photons that have electric and magnetic fields that oscillate 35,000,007,292
>>> times per second. The difference between the transmitted frequency and the
>>> returned frequency is 7,292 HERTZ (known as the "beat frequency").
>>>
>>> If you take the transmitted frequency and multiply it by 2 you get
>>> 70,000,000,000 HERTZ. If you divide that frequency into the "beat frequency"
>>> to get a percentage, you get 0.000010411666666%. That percentage of the
>>> speed of light is 69.9 mph, which rounds to 70 mph.
>>>
>>> The radar gun makes the calculation and displays "70 mph." And the cop
>>> gives the operator of the target vehicle a ticket for exceeding the speed limit.
>>>
>>> I suppose you can just make stuff up to argue that radar guns do not work
>>> that way, but that would just be displaying your personal ignorance, and as
>>> usual, you would be grotesquely wrong.
>>>
>>> Ed
>> That's just mostly much too small to make a relativistic effect.
>>
>> It's in acceleration and deceleration that relativistic effects exist at all,
>> the velocity is that "differences happen faster" down from acceleration.
>>
>> This is where, besides the object in its frame, is its surrounds, each piece its frame.
>> Accelerating, whatever moment is applied to the terrestrial frame, that
>> the moment itself moves. Still, accelerating and decelerating,
>> there are still the surrounds frames, that the entire body inside the moment,
>> travels.
>>
>> With multiple inputs indeed the views at various points of acceleration and
>> deceleration, "background Doppler", make for that under potentiality
>> there is coherence, and: "parallax".
>>
>> I.e. "objects in a fixed field of view move the most, parallax".
>>
>> Energy in the classical moment, is, reading in the classical moment.
>>
>> The ultraviolet and that photons of electromagneticity and photons of
>> decoherent light are different, is for under catastrophic terms, built
>> out for imaging why radar and sonic imaging and laser and optical imaging
>> vary about the optical. (And magneto-core.)
>>
>> I.e. the electromagnetic is under that in a way, that "signals propagate at c"
>> is "signal wave generation established stands propagating at c". This is
>> where "the optics are constantly arriving as from c". so, they "background Doppler"
>> either way.
>>
>> Or, "light's photons are massless, also tachyonic, radio is bradyonic".
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_speed_of_light
>