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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 04:56:04 +0000 Subject: Re: Time Dilation Experiments Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <bc801848-2aaa-44b7-a73c-eaf6381b80een@googlegroups.com> <7ed256df-1eeb-4d07-bbda-81d04d1e8db2n@googlegroups.com> <45f97ff4-745b-45d9-aa84-de48c358a15an@googlegroups.com> <2fbe86ad-cd42-427e-bd2d-582455a5b044n@googlegroups.com> <42926c94-d933-465b-8dae-3c8f2a8f64aen@googlegroups.com> <9c7fc4bf-b323-4896-8c9a-67d8184af533n@googlegroups.com> <ba66005b-6443-47cf-ae16-1831540f1380n@googlegroups.com> <D5ydnXSVfZwtKV7_nZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> <c87937c6-0c5e-4bac-9194-713fd64ed57fn@googlegroups.com> <d2215322-bde1-4ef1-9fd4-519ee9106871n@googlegroups.com> <f934a9ce-2a2e-42a3-8550-43a137620604n@googlegroups.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:56:05 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <f934a9ce-2a2e-42a3-8550-43a137620604n@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <Qo6dnQ4X9ul5Qq_6nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 80 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-0fVctz4vKrVGI5/rEKJwVPsr7LFwFr3CNtmGJNe/0AOSeWNBl5cPEPZ3/jMubbpZ85aBxzdbIzRI1tN!PRxnGcfvNf17VsOQHCV4jax2XB4zAlgrpTPkG2+vt8mwcibcDkDsg8XYgZpnh4dSraHyCJr8mb6v X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5807 On 07/05/2022 09:11 AM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:13:54 AM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 7:48:27 AM UTC-7, det...@outlook.com wrote: >>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-5, tjrob137 wrote: >>>> On 7/2/22 9:09 AM, Ed Lake wrote: >>>>> [... much nonsense and many false claims] >>>>> Police radar guns measure the difference between c and c+v countless times per day. >>>> NONSENSE! >>>> >>>> Police radar guns measure the frequency difference between their emitted >>>> wave and the reflected wave from the desired target. This is comparing >>>> FREQUENCIES, not speeds. >>> So, you believe the police give tickets for traveling at illegal FREQUENCIES?? >>> Can't you understand that frequencies can be converted to speeds??? >>> >>> Can't you understand that the difference in frequencies RESULTS from >>> the PHOTON traveling at c hitting a target at c+v, which means that the PHOTON >>> hits with the c+v ENERGY, not the c ENERGY? And the target sends back a >>> PHOTON with the c+v ENERGY. >>> >>> The Energy of a photon is determined by its ELECTRIC and MAGNETIC FIELD >>> OSCILLATION FREQUENCIES. If the photon from a radar gun has oscillation >>> frequencies of 35,000,000,000 times per second, and if that photon hits an >>> oncoming target traveling at 70 mph, the photon hits AS IF it had oscillation >>> frequencies of 35,000,007,292 times per second. The target then sends back >>> photons that have electric and magnetic fields that oscillate 35,000,007,292 >>> times per second. The difference between the transmitted frequency and the >>> returned frequency is 7,292 HERTZ (known as the "beat frequency"). >>> >>> If you take the transmitted frequency and multiply it by 2 you get >>> 70,000,000,000 HERTZ. If you divide that frequency into the "beat frequency" >>> to get a percentage, you get 0.000010411666666%. That percentage of the >>> speed of light is 69.9 mph, which rounds to 70 mph. >>> >>> The radar gun makes the calculation and displays "70 mph." And the cop >>> gives the operator of the target vehicle a ticket for exceeding the speed limit. >>> >>> I suppose you can just make stuff up to argue that radar guns do not work >>> that way, but that would just be displaying your personal ignorance, and as >>> usual, you would be grotesquely wrong. >>> >>> Ed >> That's just mostly much too small to make a relativistic effect. >> >> It's in acceleration and deceleration that relativistic effects exist at all, >> the velocity is that "differences happen faster" down from acceleration. >> >> This is where, besides the object in its frame, is its surrounds, each piece its frame. >> Accelerating, whatever moment is applied to the terrestrial frame, that >> the moment itself moves. Still, accelerating and decelerating, >> there are still the surrounds frames, that the entire body inside the moment, >> travels. >> >> With multiple inputs indeed the views at various points of acceleration and >> deceleration, "background Doppler", make for that under potentiality >> there is coherence, and: "parallax". >> >> I.e. "objects in a fixed field of view move the most, parallax". >> >> Energy in the classical moment, is, reading in the classical moment. >> >> The ultraviolet and that photons of electromagneticity and photons of >> decoherent light are different, is for under catastrophic terms, built >> out for imaging why radar and sonic imaging and laser and optical imaging >> vary about the optical. (And magneto-core.) >> >> I.e. the electromagnetic is under that in a way, that "signals propagate at c" >> is "signal wave generation established stands propagating at c". This is >> where "the optics are constantly arriving as from c". so, they "background Doppler" >> either way. >> >> Or, "light's photons are massless, also tachyonic, radio is bradyonic". >> >> >> >> . > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_speed_of_light >