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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:58:32 -0800
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On 07/07/2022 09:21 AM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:33:29 AM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:31:53 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:50:47 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:47:38 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Ross A. Finlayson <ross.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 1:08:15 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>> Ross A. Finlayson <ross.fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 2:21:28 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/5/2022 4:57 PM, Ed Lake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A photon is a moving electromagnetic charge. When you have lots of
>>>>>>>>>> photons, you have a greater electromagnetic charge.
>>>>>>>>> Idjit. Photons have NO charge! You didn't even understand what you
>>>>>>>>> copied-and-pasted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Photons are virtual moments in magnetic fields which have energy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are electronic photons, though.
>>>>>>> As opposed to quarkonic photons?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, quarks are part of hadrons, these are leptops.
>>>>> Some of your detectors need retuning,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>> When I bother to think about leptons,
>>>> after hadrons, is that I am not abusing the language.
>>>>
>>>> If I could understand, say, a laboratory,
>>>> and, electricity arrives in the form of a contact,
>>>> then this "solid insulating ilght" and
>>>> "vacuum insulating current" is power semiconductors.
>>>>
>>>> Then under the current detector, if you mention it,
>>>> it is re-tuning the detector or antenna, no I really
>>>> made the point of having the photon as both a hadron,
>>>> and a lepton, and ....
>>>>
>>>> Then I expect in these terms that the photonic, cicrcuits,
>>>> and electronic, circuits, in what results "build a board
>>>> and apply contact", is that matter-of-fact I do expect that
>>>> in those terms.
>>>>
>>>> "Photonic leptons", or "'lectrons", now why I have
>>>> these are only "photo-leptons".
>>>>
>>>> So, to be sure, if I just automatiically ascribe all photon's
>>>> properties in leptons, it should be about same.
>>>>
>>>> But, I won't, because without explaining that, again,
>>>> now that I just discovered it according to grammar,
>>>> then I would have to constantly retract why I said
>>>> "photons should be called leptons instead of hadrons".
>>>>
>>>> Or that the radiant or infra-red is baryonic,
>>>> but radio is leptonic or electro-weak,
>>>> it's at least electro.
>>>>
>>>> "Or baryons."
>>>>
>>>> Here photon is "anything at about the wavefront with c,
>>>> for example a significant percentage of c in a constant image,
>>>> massless, chargeless, particles".
>>>>
>>>> That's though plasma, usual background ether, background plasma ether.
>>>>
>>>> Now I am staring at it all wrong.
>>>>
>>>> No, I meant leptons.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what I thought I typed, ..., sure it was 'leptons".
>>>>
>>>> Alright then "photons are defined hadrons".
>>>>
>>>> The systolic at c or pump, here notice this is optical, thermo, radio front,
>>>> that is a point in area terms and a contact. Hadronic and leptonic.
>>>>
>>>> "Photons"
>>>>
>>>> So, yeah, no, I meant leptons.
>>> "The known force carrier bosons all have spin = 1 and are therefore vector bosons.
>>> The hypothetical graviton has spin = 2 and is a tensor boson;
>>> it is unknown whether it is a gauge boson as well."
>>> -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_particle#Overview
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, these are spinless, too, massless, chargeless, spinless, photons.
>>>
>>> "Photo-leptons: spinless photons"
>>>
>>> "The other three leptons are neutrinos, ...".
>>>
>>> Now I am getting into it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Quark hadronics"
>>>
>>> What the theory leaves out according to units is particles, in a
>>> usual enough sense, that the values, in the particles, are
>>> dynamical, in the particles.
>>>
>>> Or "according to the dimensional analysis these are still both
>>> photons, in area or current terms, and leptons, neutrinos, ...".
>>>
>>> When dynamical, ....
>>>
>>> Reading the Wiki, that's just that for the current terms, sure
>>> "the photon's erased inside the diagram, so it can be called
>>> a photon according to the diagram that dynamics gives it,
>>> it's current in electron-volts", is for because "photons are
>>> massless, these leptons couldn't be massy or electrons, at all".
>>>
>>> I.e. they are definitely what you'd expect, when "photons"
>>> are what are under the dynamics, the point here is that
>>> "the photon is a very inclusive particle". As are neutrinos,
>>> in a Dirac positronic sea.
>>>
>>> "These leptons couldn't be massy or charged, at all".
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, as "particle" that constitutes, energy, the photon,
>>> that travels only and exactly at the bradyonic/tachyonic
>>> speed, results that traveling image besides hologram
>>> includes a radiant component.
>>>
>>> I suppose then that's rays.
>>>
>>> Rays, here is this "radiant component" included, which are
>>> waves, result particles in current in effect.
>>>
>>> Here this is basically that "photons like electrons are used to
>>> define current in effect, which in space terms is space current",
>>> also, "photons are frequency/wavelength numbers of a result
>>> that according to electron gap, is the ratio of a quantum energy
>>> level, that sums to a finite number".
>>>
>>> The photons in the various are as various, when it's as "according
>>> to the theory these particles could only be photons not the
>>> plasma or rays or power, that was called particles again that
>>> massless and c could only be photons".
>>>
>>> Here I'm making the point whether area and current terms,
>>> and particle terms, making sure they are defined, because
>>> elementary theory really only has very few particles.
>>>
>>> "Photons"
>> Ha, "photo-hadrons", "photo-leptons", "spinless, empty photons", just like
>> the SI redefinition of units went I called all these what would be anti or
>> partner or virtual particles, "photons".
>>
>> So, that's in STR, in a way.
>>
>> Then, the photon is the massless, chargless, spinless, ..., particle
>> that moves at the speed of light, in electron-volts, and either in
>> current, or, instead, under quantum mechanics, either electromagnetic
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