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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 22:21:55 -0700
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On 04/14/2025 09:21 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 4/14/25 10:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/14/25 10:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>> On 04/14/2025 08:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 4/14/25 9:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>> On 04/14/2025 06:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/14/25 5:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where do you think The Constitution of the United States comes
>>>>>>>>> from???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Roman Empire! am i wrong here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you are, and off-topic too,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Founding Fathers drew inspiration from the Roman Republic,
>>>>>>> especially its emphasis on checks and balances, but adapted the
>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>> to create a unique system of government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. Constitution is dated. Americans now get their "inspiration"
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Satan, not the Roman Republic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Speak for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty much whenever I see frothy post-bait like "the end of
>>>>> the world is nigh" or "get used to it", either, it's like,
>>>>> I don't believe either of you two and furthermore I think
>>>>> it's mostly the result of a straw-man froth-farm meant to
>>>>> desensitive like a meat tenderizer, and that it most certainly
>>>>> does _not_ represent common sense and usual opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was talking to this guy the other day, we met and were
>>>>> talking and he says "I'm 96 years old" and we were having
>>>>> a genial conversation and talking about what a wonderful
>>>>> world it was and better than alright then a bit about
>>>>> the politics and he says "stupid bastards" then back
>>>>> about seeing the world and having a nice day.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Founding Fathers of America after Locke and Montesqieu
>>>>> and Montaigne arrived at a bill of universal individual
>>>>> rights, if though the universal bit took a while to get
>>>>> fulfilled, vis-a-vis being Senators and Governors and such.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, that's a _great_ and important and critical aspect,
>>>>> and with what resulted the middle class, and a strong
>>>>> and educated middle class which these days is sort of
>>>>> fat and media-addicted, the Bill of Rights is a particularly
>>>>> American invention and is widely modeled around the world
>>>>> as what results human rights and these sorts things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Roman Republic was a particularly innovative form
>>>>> of government itself, as after something like Polybius'
>>>>> history of it, and for Strabo or for Marcus Aurelius,
>>>>> then though that these days we've already done better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then as with regards to mechanical inference it's sort
>>>>> of a thing as "well you can get born and have to keep
>>>>> all your bodily functions functioning and get parented
>>>>> until you reach the age of majority which is about 18 years,
>>>>> during which time your spawners are responsible for any
>>>>> your actions".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Human years, ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, anyways, you can talk about radicals of either ilk,
>>>>> but usual nonagenarians think they're s.b.'s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such radicals are not natural friends of a prosperous middle class.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm.. Good old days you might think. Not anymore! You people aren't the
>>>> Americans who developed such thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> And even they, the "founding fathers".. they sucked bad. As the dead
>>>> American Natives. The live ones too, you know, the ones that one day
>>>> will devour you.
>>>>
>>>> Problem is your species. It is your species that's outdated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually much of the Americas North and South is mestizo,
>>> and lots of Indians-with-a-feather integrated, though it's
>>> agreeable that the various cultures of the post-Deluvian
>>> saw very different arrivals at organizations of peoples.
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course the kool-aid is very palatable, or as with regards
>>> to that ideally the egalitarian ideals beat other systems of
>>> government, with regards to free-thinking and independent peoples,
>>> what the majority would be.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, you're welcome to that foul kool-aid, here we have good stuff.
>>> Or, the right stuff, as it were.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Last time I really enjoyed Kool-aid I was 5 and in Tehran, not here in
>> U.S. In some respects it saved me also, cause I was able to do what I
>> wanted and not what my mother was incessantly telling me. She was
>> thinking Kool-Aid is bad for me, especially how I
>
>
> Sorry my cat jumped on the keyboard and message was sent prematurely.
>
> ... especially how I consumed it. No water or anything, mind you. As
> soon as I'd buy a packet (which meant as soon as I had 1 Toman in my
> possession), I would pour the whole thing in my mouth and chew it to
> extinction. It was heaven :)
>
> And I did it _every_ time I had one Toman (about $0.50 back then). And
> this sometimes meand a few times a day! Especially in a month like this
> (Farvardin is the first month of Iranian year and has a long period of
> festivity in its beginning days). So my mother was worried and scolded
> me each time she'd see my entire inner mouth colored red or blue or..
>
> The crime was impossible to hide.
>
> But guess what. It made me somewhat healthier than other kids who didn't
> do that. The reason was the added vitamin C, without which there would
> be no USA.
>
> We didn't eat much fruits in those early years of my life. For some
> reason, by the time fruit would make it near where we lived in Tehran,
> it was partially bruised and overripe. Neither of us in the family liked
> things like that.
>
> So that vitamin C in Kool-Aid did wonders for me :)
>
> But the affair ended when soon we moved to an extreme north Tehran area
> on the foot of the mountains. Gardens of fruit trees of several kinds
> were everywhere, together with raspberry fields, mulberry trees
> everywhere along narrow irrigation canals, pomegranates, strawberries,
> apples, cherries, ...
>
> So I discovered fruits! Some free to pick, and some forbidden to pick
> but.. they could never stop the kids. The fruits were available three
> seasons of the year. Always fresh of course. Kool-Aid was history. I
> actually never bought it again.
>
>
>
>

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