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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2024 03:31:49 +0000 Subject: Re: SpaceTime Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <6249F967.3B4A@ix.netcom.com> <lbqi8uF7r8kU3@mid.individual.net> <SZCcnfMeCMTTzMT7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <46358f5157687acd0539d6848f6b626c@www.novabbs.com> <lc2g63FdkjpU3@mid.individual.net> <a36c62011f40ea648ffe8d884ce5eebd@www.novabbs.com> <17d537553944a2de$5$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <51a50934574cfb09144c2a6c26eceb74@www.novabbs.com> <udidndQOHOqpNcH7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <5dba54ad373d3e9a50644c063f71a5b1@www.novabbs.com> <LkiaDz8Otko5Q-u5wJLOx98bx6k@jntp> <c1c87b515e8d35ea861b9ce9c93806a4@www.novabbs.com> <QuGdnWLN2ex2k8D7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <5a03b3defc4af4304b84f5d6059306b0@www.novabbs.com> <g5CcnfmPtY1ytsD7nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com> <_s2dnea9UdCjrsD7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <_s2dneG9UdCsqcD7nZ2dnZfqnPjqyJ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 20:31:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <_s2dneG9UdCsqcD7nZ2dnZfqnPjqyJ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <R6mcnRnyb9i4pMD7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 115 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-z5OkHRmuq7ucpe/LkVf7zoXWCwXbh8wHhmlXxvMjLDskLpMPvWY+rYW0K/R+8YlCWWdPpyjL9XYPIsW!wnK8/Xj10bUrJuK8tL/e29vpVvSadnzVFmdzW059ub296yEQV2g5r4X1TGq/2sOWK04RNtAAfgQ= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5965 On 06/02/2024 08:10 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 06/02/2024 08:06 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 06/02/2024 07:35 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 06/02/2024 07:12 PM, gharnagel wrote: >>>> Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 06/02/2024 04:22 PM, gharnagel wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > More invalid analogies. >>>> >>>>> Yeah, if you assume causality, then tachyons can't be fantastical, >>>>> they're only the result of something that is or did. >>>>> >>>>> The neutrino physics are mostly about supersymmetry. >>>> >>>> Nope. Neutrinos are firmly ensconced in the Standard model of >>>> particle physics, while supersymmetric particles are not. >>>> >>>>> If you assume lack of causality it's pretty easy to arrive at >>>>> itself. >>>> >>>> That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena. >>>> It comes from the Lorentz transform: >>>> >>>> (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt) >>>> (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2) >>>> >>>> From that comes >>>> >>>> dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2) >>>> >>>> u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2) >>>> >>>> u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag >>>> in physics. It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond >>>> that point. Physicists, who should know better, have persisted >>>> into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions >>>> like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation >>>> and a "reinterpretation principle." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mathematics really owes physics more and better >>> mathematics of the super-classical and infinitary >>> and the law(s) of large numbers, mathematical >>> physics is entirely subject to mathematical formalism >>> and the ingenuity of mathematical forms. >>> >>> Relativity is rather simplified with GR being primary >>> and SR being local, and what remains is mass/energy >>> equivalence and a cosmological constant reflecting >>> time. >>> >>> Then, the linear mass/energy equivalence >>> is quite Galilean, while the rotational is >>> special in both the spatial and spacial, >>> and there's lots of data from both >>> linear particle accelerators, and, cyclotrons. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> About supersymmetry, there's strong and weak I suppose, >> about that the "weak" sort is usual flux while the "strong" >> sort I suppose is only at "Tevatron energy levels", and sort >> of contrived, where of course Higgs field is not even really >> a classical field, and, Higgs Bosons if "Standard" are also >> "Not Standard", that the Higgs Bosons have giant divots, >> then neutrinos and for neutrino physics as a complement >> to electron physics, have that those really reflect as >> partner in the symmetric then super-symmetric as well. >> >> I.e. this sort of neutrino supersymmetry or "low-energy" >> is out of regular potentials, not "superpotentials". >> >> Well. shoot, "low-energy supersymmetry" is already >> called for "Tera-electronvolt" i.e. "the slightly weaker >> cousin of extra-strong supersymmetry", where what >> I'm talking about then I guess is "very-low" or even >> "slightly negative" energy supersymmetry. >> >> >> "Little-Higgs", say, ... like "in this case while it's a >> thing the number would be negative like the flux >> was going the opposite direction", .... >> >> It's sort of like solar neutrinos and, you know, >> those flowing _in_. >> >> Which might help explain the usual seasonal models, .... >> >> Yeah I'm interested in the "near-zero energy supersymmetry" >> not the "freakishly outlandish well at least let's get a grant >> to build a collider and talk about our g-2 lognormal shift >> so it looks like we're writing physics", bit. >> >> Heisenberg, now with more certainty, >> Hubble, now with less inflation, >> Higgs, much, much diminished. >> >> > > (I.e., "supersymmetry", not "supersymmetry-breaking".) > "This “Higgs” is a NGB and therefore exactly massless." -- http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0502182v1