Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 07:19:59 +0000
Subject: Re: Using Debian to manage a multiple OS machine
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
References: <v9ibk5$qcj$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>
 <P4mdnbCYM_pktV37nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <v9ppp3$lv7l$1@news1.tnib.de>
 <z0ednTabi_rmxlz7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <v9tb69$s44o$1@news1.tnib.de>
 <WiydnbdJ-exiB1_7nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <v9up48$umo4$1@news1.tnib.de>
From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Organization: vector apex
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 03:19:59 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/78.13.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <v9up48$umo4$1@news1.tnib.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <RSednQHQF8CCb1_7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Lines: 55
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97
X-Trace: sv3-IfQZaQaMZmKeO2Yy/lWoju1dDOcarwv/yGEJBgXdVKGhyh/wYf9J8CC2CGTueJGL5aUShoPcBzJgija!TOHkSMml6VwiFKQzlI25GLso4EvkBSE3BriTVgCki+tzwvCqU85s0NqwVfjEkOr6uAWVRM0tVL/E!snfrms3Y8TlD+NsZbzel
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
Bytes: 3725

On 8/19/24 2:35 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>    Def : "NvRAM" - Non-Volatile-Random-Access-Memory ...
>>    the 'e-disk' you now find in every laptop and oft
>>    even desktops these days. Most commonly "M2" but
>>    the tech can be put in other things/formats. First
>>    saw one in the Asus EEEPC as the main 'drive'.
> 
> That terminology is totally exotic. You're probably mixing up NVMe and
> NVRAM.


   Um ... nothing remotely "exotic" about it.
   What cave have you been living in since 1969 ???
   It's all the SAME THING ... just different acronyms.


>>    4 gig ? DO-able, but kinda TIGHT. The 32g unit ought to
>>    be better. As for "gobs" ... depends on WHAT you're running
>>    on the VMs. Some apps/servers are more memory-intensive
>>    than others ... ArcGIS for example.
> 
> Of course. Any software is not going to be smaller on a VM than on
> bare metal. But you can't blame that to virtualizatin.

   Not "blaming" it - that's just How It Is. If you
   run a big busy DB as a VM then you're gonna have
   to provide the CPU/mem so it'll run properly.

>>    Anyway, mem is still fairly cheap, so why buy 4g when 8g
>>    barely costs any more ?
> 
> Because housing machines can get expensive pretty quickly. The APU I
> am running those five VMs on comes with 4 GB and is not expandable.
> And it does the job silently and doesn't get hot.

   What's your fix - "go cloud" ??? A lot of us KNOW better,
   how BADLY that can go wrong.

   And with Russia/China/NK initiatives it's gonna go
   all the wronger all the faster.

   In any case, your 4gb solution sounds kinda "marginal", but
   of course that depends on what your VMs are/do and whether
   you run 'em one at a time or all together.

   Even these modern mini-boxes (search Amazon, there are a
   huge selection of variants) are - with Linux/Unix - more
   than adequate for a large number of "common" uses. Those
   ultra-i9's ... well ... maybe if your main thing is
   playing games. That's valid - but "biz" has a different
   spectrum of needs. With -ix, even a modern i3 can host
   like an entire airport booking system, multi-company, and
   be pretty snappy. Each airline gets its own VM.